Not a year gone by and Bar stewards are nicking his antiques. 😡
Actually I believe that the BBC headline do not fit in with the photo, the clouds may have been seen over Scarborough. but not by the person who took the photo.
I think the photo was taken somewhere on Royal Albert drive, north of the town. Looking Northwards towards the Sealife centre.
The horizon and rails seem to match, but seem to be more lights, but then the Google pics were from 2011.
But we can have a good guess at the time the pic was taken. Sometime after 22.35 pm as these clouds will only appear one hour after sunset. (7th July sunset at Scarborough was 21.35pm) and the sun has to be 6 -16 degrees below the horizon.
http://www.atoptics.co.uk/highsky/nlc1.htm
These clouds cannot occur at sunrise as the atmospherics would have charged in the period of darkness and the ice crystal’s would have gone.
Another indication that this picture is taken at night is the brightness of the lights on the shoreline.
They would not be on at 4.38 am the time of sunrise.
My theory is that, it is night time. and the setting sun rays are hitting the ice.
Somehow like this.
– ice
/O = earth Scarborough
o = sun
Close enough for me, I’d had a passenger in my pants.
eh has someone missed this thread?
Odd one this.
In response to Mr Strickland’s request, Offley Parish Council clerk David Sample wrote in an emai: “After much debate it was decided against particularly commemorating this event as the parish council did not want to offend any other areas of the parish where we do not have details of other events.
If no one knows of any events then how can they be offended?
Perhaps Mr Strickland should approach Moulding plant who are at West end Farm.
It is also strange that Elsie’s name is not on the war memorial.
The parish council said it would add the name of Elsie Handley as a serving member of the armed forces to the Offley War Memorial.
HANDLEY, ELSIE
Rank:PrivateService No:W/83086 Date of Death:18/07/1944 Age:28 Regiment/Service:Auxiliary Territorial Service Grave Reference New Part. Row 3. Grave 19.CemeteryOFFLEY (ST. MARY MAGDALENE) CHURCHYARD
Think a change of parish councillor’s is needed.
Had they parachuted then surely they would have been discovered before now? Bodies don’t tend to lay around on the surface undiscovered for long, generally. But since the Lanc crashed, without the two missing crew being found, it might be reasonable to assume that their bodies were consumed in the destruction beyond the ability available at the time to recover them; surely this makes it a grave site? The site is known, is not all that big (relatively), and there is a good chance that the undiscovered crew are lying there, in spirit if nothing else; surely that makes it a grave site?
It also might be reasonable to be presumed that the bodies are not on the site. This crash was just off marsh road. So if they had baled out, fell out and dropped into Marshy ground before the parachutes opened they would have been instantly buried without a trace.
Stainforth and keadby canal and Clearwater lake are in close proximity to the crash site.
Not a 999 call, but worse behaviour. what a Numpty.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/crime/roughton_man_who_delayed_ambulance_on_999_call_gets_driving_ban_after_drama_on_a149_1_3629634
Just remembered Mimoyecques operation was shown in What the Dambusters did next.
http://www.channel5.com/shows/what-the-dambusters-did-next/episodes/what-the-dambusters-did-next
34 min in to 38mins.
I recall visiting the Mimoyecques several years ago and there being a memorial to Lt Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr there and a quite good information board on Operation Aphrodite – The Mimoyecques site was not a V-1 site, but a huge purpose built undergroud facility to house a battery of experimental multi-chamber high velocity guns, nicknamed the “London Cannon” or later simply “V-3”.
Thanks N. Witherspoon. Yes that would be right, my source was Norfolk Airfields in the second world war by Graham Smith. 2007 version. Will insert a note into the book for future ref.
B 24 loaded with high explosive…No 1 son of Joe Kennedy flying it…….exploded over Kent on its way to French target…..Kennedy killed.
Not quite correct Xtangomike.
August 12th 1944. Target, V1 site at Mimoyecques. PB4Y-1 (ex USAAF B-24 J 42- 110007). The single US Navy BQ-8 took off from Fersfield, heading towards Southwold. At an altitude of 2000ft it prematurely detonated over Blyth estuary Suffolk, killing LT Joseph P Kennedy Jr and L T Wilford J Willy. Kennedy’s body was never found.
Am also making some progress. Its just getting the time to input the data from my files to theirs.