Richard grayI have not heard anything about how the headstone is coming on. But still trying to find out more on Phyllis’s background.
I think I have found out the answer to my question I asked in post 11.
But this is another mystery, why was this lad buried here and not in Yorkshire?
Pilot Officer 42496 Fox Basil Lincoln (Peter) Royal Air Force 224 squadron.
Son of Fred C Fox and Louisa Fox of Strathfield N.S.W. Australia.
Fredrick Charles Fox born 1882 in Lincolnshire.
Son of George H Fox and Sarah A Fox. (George was born in Lincoln.)
So am guessing that Basil was given the middle name of Lincoln as this was the birthplace of his grandfather.
Can find no trace of Fred after the1901census, until he married Louisa on 27th Oct 1911, in Parramatta Sydney NSW.
1936 Fred and his two sons, Geoffery and Basil were all working as engineers, living in Nicholson st Burwood.
Louisa Fox born 4th Sept 1882 died 16th Oct 1949. Buried St Thomas Church Enfield Sydney.
1909 census, she was in Formby Lancashire, working as a nurse for a G D Prangley.
1911 census, she was working as a nurse at the Rectory, Croxton, St Neots Cambs.
Then some time in Aug 1911, she left Liverpool (as an unassisted passenger) on the ship Persic and arrived in Sydney on the 15th of Sept 1911.
And Married Frederick on the 27th of Oct. This must have been pre-arranged.
19th Oct 1920, Louisa arrived back in London from Sydney, aboard the TSS Miltiades a ship of the Aberdeen and Commonwealth line. With her three children Geoffrey 8, Basil 5, and Jean 6.
July 1921 Louisa and the children were on board the ship Demasthenes (master G.W. Bibby) heading back to Sydney.
I guess she had brought her children back to visit their grandparents, Robert and Rebecca Loose.
in the village where she had been born, her father was a fisherman with his own boat.
Where did they live? Yes you have guessed it.
Brancaster Staithe.
Richard grayCreaking Door I would say they would be, as the village, who puts the memorial up, would probably follow the rules of the CWGC. their dates are
First World War
4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921.
Second World War.
3 September 1939 to 31 December 1947.
Richard grayI maybe wrong but I thought that these commemorations are going to go on till 2018. Each year depicting the same war years.
To me WW2 has always been my favourite subject. Now I am gaining an interest in WW1.
“We will Remember them”. but do we remember them or a they just names on a memorial or plaque?
I have often wondered that so, I decided that I would find out who some of these men were and what they lives were like before the war.
I choose a plaque in the church in a small local village with 10 names on.
When I started I assumed that it would be a simple task as all the men would have been all local farm workers and joined the same regiment. (How wrong can one be)
See here http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=203856&hl=
Have certainly came up with some surprising results, for example the first one on the list did not die in the war.
Archibald Henry Brasnett Royal Navy. Petty Officer stoker K/5384, died 22/02/1919. aged 29.
Commemorated Portsmouth Naval Memorial. Panel 32., Barney Church Norfolk and Runhall Norfolk his home village.
Then I found his Brother, John Clarke Brasnett on the Runhall church plaque. Died 27th September 1916. Aged 24.
(They had lost both their parents before 1909) Archibald was 20 and John 17.
Now this is the bit, where in my opinion is why we should commemorate all the sacrifices that our men gave
and understand that those two men did not give up on life when they parents died.
If it helps just one youngster of today, to keep on the straight and narrow, it will be worth all the commemorations.
John Clarke Brasnett.
Private 12820 Canadian Infantry 5th Battalion. (Saskatchewan Regiment).
Died 27th September 1916. Aged 24.
Grave I. E. 4. Contay British Cemetery.
On 16th of March 1911, a J. Brasnett aged 21, born about 1890, occupation farming, left Liverpool, England on the ship Montrose, (Capt A E Moscap) to St John Canada.
This may or may not have been John Clarke Brasnett, however we know that he went to Canada. Where it seems that he joined the Canadian Army the 16th Light horse.
Possibly in Regina, Saskatchewan.
Then he was attested to the Canadian expeditionary force in Valcartier (nr Quebec) on 18th Sept 1914.
Died at Thiepval ridge.
Richard grayI maybe wrong but I thought that these commemorations are going to go on till 2018. Each year depicting the same war years.
To me WW2 has always been my favourite subject. Now I am gaining an interest in WW1.
“We will Remember them”. but do we remember them or a they just names on a memorial or plaque?
I have often wondered that so, I decided that I would find out who some of these men were and what they lives were like before the war.
I choose a plaque in the church in a small local village with 10 names on.
When I started I assumed that it would be a simple task as all the men would have been all local farm workers and joined the same regiment. (How wrong can one be)
See here http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=203856&hl=
Have certainly came up with some surprising results, for example the first one on the list did not die in the war.
Archibald Henry Brasnett Royal Navy. Petty Officer stoker K/5384, died 22/02/1919. aged 29.
Commemorated Portsmouth Naval Memorial. Panel 32., Barney Church Norfolk and Runhall Norfolk his home village.
Then I found his Brother, John Clarke Brasnett on the Runhall church plaque. Died 27th September 1916. Aged 24.
(They had lost both their parents before 1909) Archibald was 20 and John 17.
Now this is the bit, where in my opinion is why we should commemorate all the sacrifices that our men gave
and understand that those two men did not give up on life when they parents died.
If it helps just one youngster of today, to keep on the straight and narrow, it will be worth all the commemorations.
John Clarke Brasnett.
Private 12820 Canadian Infantry 5th Battalion. (Saskatchewan Regiment).
Died 27th September 1916. Aged 24.
Grave I. E. 4. Contay British Cemetery.
On 16th of March 1911, a J. Brasnett aged 21, born about 1890, occupation farming, left Liverpool, England on the ship Montrose, (Capt A E Moscap) to St John Canada.
This may or may not have been John Clarke Brasnett, however we know that he went to Canada. Where it seems that he joined the Canadian Army the 16th Light horse.
Possibly in Regina, Saskatchewan.
Then he was attested to the Canadian expeditionary force in Valcartier (nr Quebec) on 18th Sept 1914.
Died at Thiepval ridge.
Richard grayChurch service
A church service was held at Salthouse this morning, with Bishop of Kings Lynn attending.
The previous crash with fatalities in the same area, also occurred in January.
Remembering the crew of the Lancaster bomber which crashed into this pylon in the
night of 15th January 1945.
http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/radar.html
Richard grayPossible, but not a lot of time for sightseeing.
M109 Range, 850kls. with extra tanks 1000 kls
Stravanger to Stormness. = 518 kls.
Guernsey to Dublin. 512 kls.
Richard grayGuess she takes after her father. Major James Lumley seen her on the right.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/18/article-1057401-02B2C54B00000578-985_468x307.jpg
Richard grayGuess she takes after her father. Major James Lumley seen her on the right.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/18/article-1057401-02B2C54B00000578-985_468x307.jpg
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Richard grayRichard grayRichard grayDaily Mirror.
A commando accused of helping to kill a wounded Taliban prisoner yesterday said he was “exhausted, stressed, and living in constant fear” at the time.
Marine C told a court martial 10 to 20 friends had already been killed or badly injured in Afghanistan when his patrol found the insurgent.
He said: “Every patrol we went on we found improvised explosive devices.”
He told the military court in Bulford, Wilts: “I was feeling drained.”
Marine C is one of three men who deny murdering the insurgent in Helmand.
The court saw film showing Marine C walking away before Marine A shoots the captive in the chest.
The trial continues.
I also noticed a small piece in todays Sun. Alleged from a MOD source, that the soldier that killed this Taliban, had some time earlier, had clear up his brother, who had been killed by the Taliban.
This reminded me of this story.
GPT Ridge Burma 1944.
I Left those two prisoners with one man a soldier you could trust and told him to bring them along. I said “Search them before bring them”. Colonel Scott came up I told him we’d got these prisoners and he said “Where are they?” I told him they were being brought along by one of the chaps and he said “Good.” Well up came this this fellow no prisoners. So I asked him where they were. He said “Back up the track.” I said “What do you mean, they are going to be gone!” He said “Never they won’t go anywhere! Remember my brother got bayoneted in a hospital bed. When I searched them, I took these badges of them. These are the territorial badges they had.” I said “That’s right, yes they are”. He said “Well I bayoneted them, both of them, I killed them”.
So I had to go and tell the CO. When I told, that we hadn’t got the prisoners, he flew at me and said, “Bring the person who let them escape to me!” I said “They did not escape. They took these badges off them – they are officer’s badges of the 4th 5th or 6th Battalion”. He said, “Yes so what?” I said “Well his brother was bayoneted in bed in hospital – he bayonetted them and got his own back”. Colonel Scott said, “That’s saved me cutting their bloody throats!”. Sgt Bert Fitt B Coy 2nd Norfolks.
Let’s just hope that the court martial makes the right verdict.
Richard grayDaily Mirror.
A commando accused of helping to kill a wounded Taliban prisoner yesterday said he was “exhausted, stressed, and living in constant fear” at the time.
Marine C told a court martial 10 to 20 friends had already been killed or badly injured in Afghanistan when his patrol found the insurgent.
He said: “Every patrol we went on we found improvised explosive devices.”
He told the military court in Bulford, Wilts: “I was feeling drained.”
Marine C is one of three men who deny murdering the insurgent in Helmand.
The court saw film showing Marine C walking away before Marine A shoots the captive in the chest.
The trial continues.
I also noticed a small piece in todays Sun. Alleged from a MOD source, that the soldier that killed this Taliban, had some time earlier, had clear up his brother, who had been killed by the Taliban.
This reminded me of this story.
GPT Ridge Burma 1944.
I Left those two prisoners with one man a soldier you could trust and told him to bring them along. I said “Search them before bring them”. Colonel Scott came up I told him we’d got these prisoners and he said “Where are they?” I told him they were being brought along by one of the chaps and he said “Good.” Well up came this this fellow no prisoners. So I asked him where they were. He said “Back up the track.” I said “What do you mean, they are going to be gone!” He said “Never they won’t go anywhere! Remember my brother got bayoneted in a hospital bed. When I searched them, I took these badges of them. These are the territorial badges they had.” I said “That’s right, yes they are”. He said “Well I bayoneted them, both of them, I killed them”.
So I had to go and tell the CO. When I told, that we hadn’t got the prisoners, he flew at me and said, “Bring the person who let them escape to me!” I said “They did not escape. They took these badges off them – they are officer’s badges of the 4th 5th or 6th Battalion”. He said, “Yes so what?” I said “Well his brother was bayoneted in bed in hospital – he bayonetted them and got his own back”. Colonel Scott said, “That’s saved me cutting their bloody throats!”. Sgt Bert Fitt B Coy 2nd Norfolks.
Let’s just hope that the court martial makes the right verdict.
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