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  • in reply to: Dunkirk film – Merged For General Updates And Chat #776533
    Nick Sumner
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    The aircraft in the film was obviously ‘light’ no fuel and very little (if any) ammo.

    in reply to: Dunkirk film – Merged For General Updates And Chat #776842
    Nick Sumner
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    I enjoyed the film but have to ask; What is the sink rate of a Spitfire Mk 1, engine out, from about 100-120 mph, from about 2000 feet? Would that aircraft have sufficient energy to manage a turn and to fire its guns? (Firing the guns would slow the aircraft down wouldn’t it?) There is plenty of stuff on the internet about how you could glide a Spitfire ’15 miles’ but no mention of from what altitude. I don’t mean to nitpick (okay I do) but I found that final sequence a bit suspect. 😉

    in reply to: Fairy Spearfish controls. #1179597
    Nick Sumner
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    On pp 171 of my edition of Wings on my Sleeve Brown says that “The Spearfish had its troubles and never went beyond the prototype stage. We eventually used it as a hack for arrester gear and catapult development work.” concise but not particularly illuminating. (Incidentally, is anyone else’s copy of that book falling to pieces as badly as mine is? I have the Phoenix paperback edition and it hasn’t had very heavy wear but all the pages of falling out!)

    I sit corrected on the spelling of Fairey. :o:rolleyes:

    in reply to: Fairy Spearfish controls. #1179952
    Nick Sumner
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    Neither Putnam’s Aircraft of the Royal Navy or Fairy Aircraft Since mention this problem, but Putnam don’t tend to elaborate on drawbacks, concentrating instead on the design and development process. The Fairy volume does mention the prototype’s and pre-production aircraft being used for many years, suggesting that whatever problems they might have been were either overcome, or not that serious.

    in reply to: Barracuda book #1227925
    Nick Sumner
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    Many thanks gentlemen!

    in reply to: Bristol Aero Engines book #1263546
    Nick Sumner
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    Speaking as a publisher, the whole question of worthwhile, technically detailed and readable aviation books is frustrating.

    We need to clone LJK Setright – I recently read his ‘The Power to Fly’, got it from the library. It is just brilliant, beautifully written, technically detailed and easy to follow. No wonder its C$400 second hand!

    On ‘By Jupiter’, I found ‘Fedden’ much better and much more detailed though it uses much of the same material as ‘Jupiter’.

    in reply to: Bristol Aero Engines book #1265162
    Nick Sumner
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    I received a very prompt reply from Peter Pavey, it was as follows.

    “The above was a manuscript that was commissioned by the then Bristol Siddeley Engines company in the 1960’s and was researched by Sawyer and Slatterly. Although completed it was never turned into a book, and the few copies that we have includes references to drawings, figures and photographs etc, which did not survive with the manuscript.

    “A re-appraisal of the manuscript in the 1990’s found that there were several errors in it (as does Freeman’s book). In the meantime Bill Gunstons book “By Jupiter” had been re-issued by the Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust and is a far superior treatise anyway.”

    in reply to: Bristol Aero Engines book #1272673
    Nick Sumner
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    thanks Roger, I have sent a letter to Peter Pavey and will post any results here.

    in reply to: Bristol Aero Engines book #1273058
    Nick Sumner
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    I have tried a number of search variations on both the author and title on the online databases I have access to (Incl. the British Library catalogue) and drawn a total blank – which is pretty unusual – are you sure it is a book? I was wondering if perhaps it is a paper or thesis?

    I appreciate you doing that – in Furse’ book it is quoted in note 5 to appendix IX on page 372.

    Sawyer W.J.A. The Bristol Aircooled radial Engine: A Technical History. Ch 11

    It does not appear listed in the bibliography on pages 374 – 376

    in reply to: Bristol Aero Engines book #1273822
    Nick Sumner
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    If no one comes up with anything better you could contact the Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust – Bristol Branch.
    Havent got contact details to hand but can find if you want them.

    Roger Smith.

    Roger, if it is no bother that would be very useful. Thanks.

    in reply to: Post War RAF:What could (should?)have been #1325595
    Nick Sumner
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    The problem is that the V/STOL concept only works as part of a much wider doctrine, and the RAF could not afford that doctrine.

    Of what doctrine do you speak?

    I should also say that the Question that you are asking is a very narrow one, as I have said sure it could work in technical terms, but there is a much wider picture, involving economy, politics and doctrine. It is a simplistic blinkered technical approach that leads many to regard the cancellation of TSR-2 as a crime against humanity.

    Sometimes the narrow question can help clarify the broad, I didn’t mean to imply the Q should be considered in isolation.

    in reply to: Post War RAF:What could (should?)have been #1326265
    Nick Sumner
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    So let me reconstrue my question,

    What are people’s opinions of the likely outcome of the UK pursuing the P.1154 with PCB? A successful aircraft or a failure? Could both RAF and RN aircraft have been a success? Just one of them?

    Forgive me if I sound like a cracked record but there are so many very knowledgable people here and I have no idea what the answer to this question is.

    in reply to: Post War RAF:What could (should?)have been #1327102
    Nick Sumner
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    :confused:

    Forgive me I am confused – are we saying PCB would have worked but it wasn’t pursued because P.1154 was too much aircraft for the requirement or are we saying PCB wouldn’t have worked and the Harrier was quicker/easier/cheaper to develop from the Kestral?

    Leonarto’s post from 03/05/05 would seem quite categorical.

    in reply to: Post War RAF:What could (should?)have been #1327507
    Nick Sumner
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    So if the the British had persisted with the P1154 what might have been the outcome?

    A completely useless technological train wreck or a bigger, marginally more capable, non supersonic Harrier analogue? Something in between those two extremes?

    in reply to: Bristol Orion aero engine. #1320202
    Nick Sumner
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    Here is the text on the Orion

    “The team at Somerdale was enlarged, and work began on what Fedden had finally concluded must be started at the earliest possible date: a new engine much more powerful than the Centaurus. Under the revived name Orion, a study was made for an 18-cylinder radial with a bore of 6’/a in and capacity of 4,140 cubic inches. It incorporated several features planned for future models of the Hercules and Centaurus. One was an exhaust system with the pipes discharging straight to the rear from aft*facing ports. Another was a new design of head consisting of a close-finned copper base, with nickel-plated flame face, shrunk into a steel body. The Orion was drawn in detail by Butler in early 1941, and promised to be a superb engine rated at an initial power of about 4,000 hp. Several airframe constructors welcomed it, and Arthur Gouge (Short Brothers) and Rex Pierson (Vickers) began projects for large bombers and flying boats using four or even six. Such very big machines appeared certain to be needed – in peace, if not during the War – and the one thing Fedden wanted to avoid was having to couple together groups of smaller engines.

    “With the Centaurus he had what appeared to be the most powerful aero engine in the world. With the Orion added at the top end of his family he considered the Bristol company would be able to offer an unbeatable range of engines, not only to win the War – which he said in 1941 would probably last until 1946 – but also to win the fierce commercial battles of the ensuing peace.

    “Fedden was frankly and totally committed to the sleeve-valve piston engine, which he was certain would be needed up to at least 1955 and probably later. He had no doubt his company could – if it had the strategic judgement and motivation – be the world leader in piston aero engines during the whole of this period, providing the foundation for a world-beating series of British aircraft. It is characteristic of Fedden that, in early 1941, in the grimmest period of the War and long before the formation of any Brabazon Committee to study the problem, he was deeply engaged in considering the design of the aircraft for the post-war period. It was partly because of this that he appreciated the importance of the Orion.”

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