That speculation is at least backed up by factual evidence of ongoing programs demonstrating a continued ballistic missile industry presence in the Ukraine. All you have done is provide an opinion that Ukraine cannot exist without Russia without proving your point.
There is no credible reason to assume that, with the proper funding, the Ukraine couldn’t develop an ICBM. They’re already developing the Grom and/or Sapsan (they might be the same thing) tactical ballistic missiles. Combine that experience with the SLV production ability and the know-how from the SS-24 guidance unit and you have an ICBM without Russia.
http://www.missiles.ru/korshun_e.htm
http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/ukraine/missile/index_5523.html
http://military-informer.narod.ru/English-Sapsan.html
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3486976
There’s also been talk of cooperation with Israel, which could aid such an effort:
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Ukraine_Seeks_Missile_Alliance_With_Israel_999.html
It’s probably not up to current standards but the knowledge is clearly there. The SS-24 had a CEP of around 500 meters, which is certainly useable for an ICBM.
ICBM which needs more advance guidance and control
What, like the inertial guidance system for the SS-24, which was made in, you guessed it, the Ukraine?
If they lacked the knowledge to do it then your NTI article wouldn’t have listed them as a proliferation concern.
That topic was moved to the Trash folder, which regular users can’t access. I think only a moderator can do that, so one of the Historic mods must have thrown it out as it was also locked. Send one of them a PM.
That topic was moved to the Trash folder, which regular users can’t access. I think only a moderator can do that, so one of the Historic mods must have thrown it out as it was also locked. Send one of them a PM.
It is a big embarasment for USN that they didn’t manage to shoot down a single a/c in IRAQ with much publicised Phoenix.
They only fired one or two, and both of them were at receeding targets at range. No big suprise they missed.
Phoenix was a piece of crap, so much is clear. Even USN admitted that… only after they were phased out, of course…
Worked for Iran.
Only years later, when technical difficulties emerged as too great, they cancelled these projects.
Wrong. When they realized that the Soviets had no supersonic bomber threat, the F12B was “cancelled”. It was already approved for production when McNamara withheld the funding.
On the other hand, the Russians succeded to make Mach 3 multi role combat a/c
No they didn’t, they did the same thing as the US: they created a basic airframe design that was adapted into different variants for different roles. One solitary MiG-25 aircraft could not perform reconnaissance, intercept, and anti-radar sorties, so it was not a multi-role aircraft. Different variants for different missions. Nothing wrong with that either, you don’t have to compromise the capabilities of one variant to incorporate those of another.
The A-12 is another matter. With much less fuel than SR-71, it had similar range to Mig-25.
Wrong. They did a long-range proving sortie on 14 August 1965 which had a leg from Groom to Orlando, FL, and then back to Groom following an IFR hookup. Can the MiG-25 manage Mach 3.1 over that distance?
And if you were right, the Ukraine wouldn’t be able to construct SLVs. Like I said, all they need to do is find warheads.
That naval deployment is probably related to this:
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/08/observing-iwo-jima-expeditionary-strike.html
Could be that they’re headed for Somalia:
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/08/5th-fleet-focus-groundhog-day-off.html
More on naval movements:
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/08/global-naval-operations-order-of-battle.html
That naval deployment is probably related to this:
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/08/observing-iwo-jima-expeditionary-strike.html
Could be that they’re headed for Somalia:
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/08/5th-fleet-focus-groundhog-day-off.html
More on naval movements:
http://informationdissemination.blogspot.com/2008/08/global-naval-operations-order-of-battle.html
Hey who told you fools that this was a chatroom? If one of those PMs includes the phrase “what are you wearing” I swear I’ll ban you all 😀
Interesting to speculate, but it does happen. I remember when the one in Mozambique blew apart a while back.
Would be freakin’ hilarious if they started cranking out SS-18s and aimed them at Russia.
That’s retarded, they’d need to build targetable silos. Just start building rail-based SS-24s again 😀
Much of the components for the ICBMs still had to come from Russia.
The Ukraine is building its own SLVs. If they can find warheads, they’re good to go.
Greece also has S-300 for a decade now?. it is pretty obsolete for Russian standards.
Two S-400 batteries have better performance than the S-300PMU-1 in Greece in terms of engagement range and altitude. Russia never even bothered with the Favorit/48N6D missile for the S-300PM, sending it to China and Vietnam instead (likely because they were biding their time for the S-400, but there were higher performing SAMs than Russia’s S-300PM being exported).