And who else thinks that it’s funny that ten single-warhead missiles in Poland are suddenly such a massive threat to Russia’s strategic nuclear force?
Don’t be a hypocrite, and don’t think Russians are imbeciles who wash their faces upwards and not downwards when they are awoke in the morning.
Do you know the function of radars ?

No, do tell, what is this radar and what is it used for? And I fail to see how a Russian washes his or her face has any bearing on this conversation. Or does that affect this radar of which you speak?

Other than radar, do you know what SBIRS is? Makes the “the radar can see into Russia to see missile launches” completely beside the point. If that’s what this radar thing can do, that is, as I have no understanding of the concept obviously :rolleyes:

That staged demonstrations were in need of some strictly known conditions.
Did that QB-47 fly at 500 feet already and at what speed?
The YF-12 was in need to know in advance, there will be a QB-47 at a given time and at given point and so has the YF-12 to be there in the right moment. Of cause the QB-47 did nothing to break contact, when painted by the radar or did it?
Maybe you have the related conditions of that tests to give it to us. The claim that a QB-47 was hit 500 feet above the ground is a technical achievement, but the practical value is still more than questionable under wartime-conditions.;)

They weren’t able to proceed to the ECM environment operational-style testing as the program got shelved. But picking a target out of ground clutter while flying at 75,000 feet is still a major feat for the time period. As far as I have discerned the intercepts were not fully staged, the YF-12 did still try and locate the target. I gave the AN/ASG-18’s search parameters somewhere else already in this thread, but with a range against a bomber-size target of 150 miles being demonstrated in testing painting a QB-47 and not firing until 35 miles or so puts the bomber well within the no escape zone. Whatever maneuver it would’ve tried would have failed. ECM is another story, but as I said they weren’t able to progress that far. Those tests were planned but not executed due to the aforementioned cancellation of the program and the transfer of the extant airframes to NASA. At any rate, since no strategic bomber of the time was going to be going trans-Atlantic at 500 or 1000 feet anyway, it does show that the system was capable, ECM interference notwithstanding. Finding targets to blow up would not have been an issue.

The less capable SAM-2 was enough to bring to a hold the supersonic bombers high up.

Nope. That was SA-5 development that screwed the whole high-speed bomber idea. The SA-2 was pretty much ineffective in that regard, or it’d have been able to shoot down Blackbirds over Korea and Vietnam.

What blind eye? What were the YF-12 people ignoring? They used bomber-sized drones (usually QB-47s) to fly bomber mission profiles and then blew them away at altitudes as low as 500 feet, 70,000 feet below the YF-12. They hadn’t gotten around to anything more amusing, like firing at max design range, as the program was McNamara’d before they could conduct further firing trials. The system worked. Where specifically is the problem?

The U.S wants these to locate this radars in this location to monitor ICBM launches from Russia a mere provocation.

Or not.

And what if they could hit Russian ICBMs. So what? Without the ABM Treaty, Russia has no right to dictate what the US does with its ABM assets. Just like Russia is not the overlord of Poland or the Czech Republic. Russia is free to take whatever measures they see fit in order to counter the ABM system that they think can hit their ICBMs, nobody is disputing that. But they have no right to tell the USA where they can or cannot place their systems as the relevant treaty no longer exists. Both sides can do whatever they want, and they should just get on with it already and stop the incessant bickering, which is pointless and will resolve nothing.

And who else thinks that it’s funny that ten single-warhead missiles in Poland are suddenly such a massive threat to Russia’s strategic nuclear force?

the YF-12 was surely not considered to be of any use against low flying targets

That statement is only true if you consider low level to be below 500 feet. Because they did blow up two targets at 1000 feet and one at 500.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XF-108_Rapier

Refresh my memory as to when the XF-108 prototype got off the ground.

[color=red]20 pages reached, time to start #11.[/color]

i understand that the PAK-FA will incoroporate stealth design features, but do any countries actually posess radar absorbing materials other than the united states?

I believe India did some test with RAM on either a MiG-21 or a Jaguar. Russia has RAM, they’ve applied it to the intakes of the Tu-160 for one example. That’s why operational BLACKJACKs have black colored intakes and also why they’re covered when an operational jet is on public display. With around 2.4 zillion people living there, it’d probably be retarded to assume that China HASN’T figured RAM out, although I can’t think of any published references to Chinese RAM off the top of my head. Germany, the Eurofighter consortium, and France have all experimented with it in the past or applied it operationally: Germany probably can claim credit for inventing the stuff for the Horten bombers in WWII, and both the Eurofighter consortium and France have employed it on the EF-2000 and Rafale.