See, what CB just wrote, that makes sense. If you want to get into the ins-and-outs of how to get a Presidential candidate into the Oval Office, then it starts to get confusing and goes against logic.

You are so right, SOC- I was actually trying to describe the process in detail- but I couldnt for the life of me. It just becomes so murky and convoluted… “Is it like this? Or like that?”” Wait, no- don’t think it’s that.”

Logic definetly takes a flying leap from a tall building…. :rolleyes:

My speakers are turned up…. :confused:

I live in an area that up until 1999 was in the context of living in or near any city of a similar size rather quite and peaceful.

In the ensuring 6 years, over 3,000 eastern European migrants/immigrants (local council figures) have been resettled in my area.

The figures for burglary have increased by 18%, car theft, and 34% attacks/muggings 57%. The local police have admitted they cannot cope; we now have a problem with drugs in this area.

The ONE common denominator is the 3000 eastern Europeans recently ‘moved’ in. I was not asked if I want them, they have travelled half way across Europe, ignoring other countries such as Germany, Italy, France, Spain, and Holland.

These people were forced upon my community, we were not asked. And before you give me the old chestnut, I’m racist, I’m married to an Indian girl who happens to have been born in our community and raised and shares the same horror and fear that other “whites” do.

DON’T PREACH TO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOUR WIMS.

Get over it- things happen. 3000 people from elsewhere in England couldve moved in and you’d have the same problems….

Maybe there was a reason those people were relocated- you’d rather they stayed where they were and starved or been killed? They should live terrible lives because you don’t want your quiet being disturbed? Poor you. Would you like some cheese with your whine?

I don’t like where this country is going. It’s very sad. Were becoming what we tried to leave behind….

You basically have so many seats per state for congress or the senate; various people decide to run for one of these seats; gain backing from a political party or run as an independent; the people vote and bring them into office. These are our state representatives in Washington- they bring bills forth to put different things into law; congress votes and approves or puts down each individual bill; and then if it’s passed it goes to the president for his signature (he can veto it if need be). I think there are plenty of instances of people voting against their party- but I don’t know that I’ve heard to much of parties dropping them for it, though I assume they could.

When the president is elected he chooses his own cabinet members; usually on the same party line but not always. The choice does have to go through confirmation in front of congress; which is usually a sure thing…even if issues are raised during the confirmation hearing. These people do not go through an election; if the president is reelected his cabinet is as well, though they might decide to step down, etc. As Colin Powell did when bush was reelected…(good for him, by the way- trying to salvage his political career; instead of staying on and going down in flames…)

I guess our systems are similar after all- though, I think the way laws are brought into being is done differently. It’s hard to compare the systems, really- without knowing all the ins and outs of each.

I often think mine’s has turned into a whelk when I get in the cold seas off Scotland ! 😮

Thank you, Ren for that…erm….disturbing visual….. :rolleyes: 😉

Great pictures! Thanks so much for posting them- I love astronomy!

Um…Who the hell is “John”? Lennon? What about Paul and Ringo? (Flood’s joke- I stole it…):rolleyes: 😀 😀

Sorry! We tried…..