How is Reliance qualified to be involved in Rafale for India?
just on this one:
Reliance is infinitely more qualified than HAL for the very reason that it has no “we already know” attitude… they are the learning Indian partner who lets Dassault set up the chain the way it has to be done so that it can make the aircraft efficiently and at the desired quality standard.. exactly the opposite of HAL that MMRCA deal tried to force down Dassault’s throat while their ways of working and quality standards were nowhere near what was required by Dassault. Thing that not only the French have noticed, as there’s a letter from a US official back from India that states pretty mich teh same thing and that I have posted in this very discussion a page or two earlier.
Same applies to any other partner in India.. the bigger aeronautical background they have, the more they’ll be tempted by their “internal policy” which is necessarily different from the one Dassault has (or anybody else, since, by definition, every country, and even every company in each country has its own).
In the end, previous government in India had corruption affairs that came to light but the today’s one has none, which is most certainly why the today’s opposition tries whatever they can to discredit them while having zero hard facts against them…. zero
I said “decent” mid range DSLR/lens, not a thing of 20 years of age 😉
even if you have a fabulous sensor, if your lens doesn’t give you sufficient resolution to use it fully, you waste your money… 😉
anyway, all that to say that for good optics, you definitely need a good lens
well, “all things being equal” better sensor gives better image.. it’s obvious..
but when you have a decent mid-range reflex camera, and a decent mid-range lens, if you have a decent upgrade budget for one item and can choose between getting the best camera or the best lens… if you know what you’re doing, you go always for the best lens.. your picture will be much better with a top of the range lens and medium sensor than the opposite
er, “the same”… besides being both “reconnaissance pods”, I doubt they have a single screw in common
That’s an overly simplistic look at it.
The F-35 program (and others) use and have used this process in the past. The only thing happening now is that the program is saying that the sims have caught up with teh original plan.
well, that’s simply the reality: you test fly it to see if it works IRL as you calculated that it should
If you calculate to see whether your calculation is correct, you assume that your data and calculations are correct in the first place… you don’t verify (test) anymore, you just confirm that the data you fed to your computers with formulas you fed your computers give still the same result…
what’s more, after the delays with MMRCA deal, it is rather easy to argue that there definitely is an emergency.
Even more, the “best offers” were on the table for the MMRCA, so they can even argue that they did take into consideration the best proposals by both companies (cost wise) and that Dassault wins hands down as well
no, the rules in France are still there
thing is, if it’s simulated it is not tested but calculated… the whole purpose of test flights is to verify that calculations are correct. If you count on calculations to verify if calculations are correct, you’re just betting lives of future users of it that you’ll be lucky enough so as reality really matches your expectations…
from memory, the F1 with M53 engine was proposed for the european “century deal”.. against the F-16.. it was dropped after the europeans chose the latter
er, what would they use the M-88 for? for the ATAR replacement, the differences are huge
– 700mm wide (1000 for the ATAR)
– 3.5m long (5.9m for the ATAR)
– 900kg (vs 1500 for the ATAR)
adapting it to the Mirage F1 would be a real mess as it would require an enormous work of redesign of the rear fuselage…
becasue, as xman said, it’s obvious BS… their “best offer” was submitted for MMRCA and all of a sudden, the same aircraft with the same full manufacturing facilities would be 20% cheaper? it’s not an offer, it’s just communication to destabilize the winning side and those who made the choice… the BS-level is so high and obvious that there’s nothing to consider or discuss
If the Typhoon was anywhere near that much cheaper than the Rafale, it would have been known for ages… looks more like another attack on political grounds against Modi rather than simple reporting.. one has to wonder:
– who wrote that article?
– who paid ?
– what agenda there is behind it?
it should be noted that Dassault presented a proposition with Reliance being the partner. They included in it that they (Dassault) would built the factories as they see fit to make it at a given price. They were confronted by obligation to let HAL do the building and it appeared that Dassault couldn’t control (but had to take the responsibility) what and how HAL was doing things (and they obviously weren’t happy with HAL way of doing, and they are not alone, as shows the article of an american representative posted earlier here who basically said that HAL was impossible to work with by western standards).
So, some may argue that “it was said that HAL had to build it”.. maybe, but Dassault proposed a price to manufacture the aircraft in a certain way, India wanted it different from their proposal and things went on from there… You can’t just come and say my car will be in service for that price and when the buyer comes at the table you say “well, yeah, in fact you’ll pay double for what was being proposed”.. India’s officials aren’t just children that would be impressed by the guy in front, if they stayed in the negotiations, chances are that it was much more subtle and documented than “car sold without the tyres” 😉
Rafale was never supposed to encounter any action, unless there were fighters coming in from Iran or Pakistan.. which was veeeery unlikely.. just as the F-35 has about zero chance to encounter anything else than “exercises” you speak about…
That include air combat and if a conflict were to break out with North Korea, the F-35s would be among the first into the fray. Its at least as productive a task, as flying air superiority missions over Afghanistan.
that’s a BIG “if”… even Trump will think twice about it (the chinese are quite close up there) and we can speculate for years about that “if”, I’m pretty certain (as probably any US general around) that the F-35 will continue to fly pretty safely around Japan for some time more before, eventually, seeing live action somewhere around the middle east