A lot of people seem to have misunderstood the point of my post. my point being that if a British pilot said the same thing that these French pilots have said they would deem the articles with as much scepticism as the Eurofighter fans (for lack of a better name).

Several people had quoted these French articles as absolute truth, my main point was to pose the question would you take it as absolute truth if the boot was put on the other foot?

With regards to pilots talking to the media bragging about the performance of their planes in certain exercises, i do thing that is unprofessional, i would think it’s unprofessional if it was done by a British, American, French or any other air force pilot. If the exercise was meant be made public then is should be the MOD of respective country that does this not a pilot in a press conference, if it make you feel better TMor I think your quote about a British pilot stating that the Eurofighter was better is unprofessional and him making him making his opinion public disrespectful to the French.

weather you judge me as prejudice or not is your call after all i am British and to some my post have come across as pro typhoon, but as i have previously posted i don’t care which is the better aircraft, i have said before i think we are capable of building better aircraft and i don’t think it is the best aircraft for the UK. But in this thread there have been a number of posts which has suggested that the Rafale is undisputedly a better aircraft in every spec and cited these articles of proof, which is what I take exception to.

The argument I’m trying to promote is that both aircraft will have their merits, and just because a pilot states something is true doesn’t make it so, equally if a British or German pilot said the opposite you would hold the contrary articles with sceptism and rightly so! Please don’t take my previous remarks somehow as anti french i have nothing against the French nation in fact i have far more against my own.

With regards to my outburst towards golden prawn I apologise that was not well considered. I would do well to consider that freedom of thought and speech is something that should be allowed to all people. But I do believe his posting is mostly inflammatory remarks (granted some may see my previous couple of post as similar and for that I apologise.) and he could benefit from a more balanced outlook, from what I have gathered from his post he is of the opinion that the Eurofighters have no good attributes and the nations that made it should be ashamed of themselves.

just a reminder:

no pilot from the french air force would appear in a press conference “accidentally”.

if he was there, it’s because the people above him (minister and probably the president too) wanted him to be there to talk about the exercises.

so much about “unprofessionalism”… the guy was doing his job, as ordered by his superiors

which rempinds me of a book “naked in da nang”, written by an ex-FAC, and about the chapter where he narrates how, when he was flying his cessna over the jungle he saw a SAM coming his way… a 2 million dollar missile to take out a 50000 dollar aicraft.

he shouted some insults and “give me the two million dollars, I’ll break the cessna myself.. and then just repay the USAF for it!!! you *£§#@¤!!! (coded language to protect sensitive ears 😀 )

it’s like waking up too late and not being on time for your work… you just delay your watch by a couple of hours and say: “yeah!! I’m right on time! even a bit early…” 😀

I could tell you, but then, I’d have to kill you.. er, no, that’s not it… then gray area would have to delete another post….

yes, that’s it…. 😀

that the growler sucks? 😀

:p

several weeks ago UK switched to F-35C already. they don’t buy B’s anymore.

it’s been covered in this very thread, just browse a few pages back 😉

according to french navy official site, its top spped is M1.3 @ 11000m (33000ft)

where would it dive from to get there?

its engine is the same as Mirage F1 (mach2 fighter) but without afterburner.

as for talking about supercruise, well… since it doesn’t have the afterburner, it does fit the definition of supercruise as “supersonic flight without the use of the afterburner” but I doubt anyone uses that speed for “cruising” 😉

sorry