The picture quality is the best i agree but personally i do not think the Mirage 2000 is the most beautiful aircraft among all the modern fighters

I was referring to the picture more than the a/c myself. In terms of good looks, it would have to be between the folllowing for me:
SU 30MKI
Rafale
MiG 35 (in that red get up @ farnborough, looked beautiful)
Gripen
f16 blk 50

For outlandish exotic look,
the Berkut wins it in my book and possibly the Draken.

Regards,
USS.

What sort of radar are we looking for the MiG29k? Zhuk M? or Zhuk MF? What is the difference?

Regards,
USS.

qantaz asked me if I know about Sea Dragon

well, I don’t think any reasonable person would argue that PN capabilities isn’t behind IN both qualitatively and quantatively, but what annoys me is the way that someone like qantaz talk.

he normally posts in DT and strategypage forum. You can check up on his posts to see their quality and his credential.

So, you are saying IAF would have no clue of what goes on in IN? btw, his post was in response to the MPA competition that includes IL-38 and P-8.

right, did IN actually get both APS-115 and Sea Dragon to be able to say that Sea Dragon is much better?

btw, Harry. I really do think you should do something about Qantaz. He has been very confrontative in this thread.

TPH,

FWIW, i’ve hung around stratpage and it reeks of a prowestern bias esp. vis a vis the Russian, I gave up on them the moment I found keypubs and acig. i’d take WAB anytime.

Greenday,

Don’t underrate an upgraded sub – upgrades often include some superb tech diminishing the tech advantage considerably. A comparison between Greek upgraded 209s and new 214s might be a good exercise. It is only the age factor that cannot be reduced with an upgrade. First of all IN is extremely secretive about subs, and let us not be forgetting the SSNs, which seem to be almost a surety now.

regards,
USS.

I remember reading somewhere that ACM clearly ruled out F-35 ever entering service with IAF.

Yeah but the IN Chief had expressed interest in it so perhaps the IN instead of IAF will get it??

Regards,
USS.

I was referring to this:

Boeing may sell India modified maritime aircraft

Press Trust of India

Washington, April 20, 2006

Boeing may sell as many as eight modified versions of the P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) to India over a period of four years, according to reports.
Under a request for proposals announced by India, bids would have been submitted and the first of the deliveries would occur within 48 months of the award of the contract, said a report in a defence journal.

“Boeing’s proposal includes the development of a unique Indian Navy P-8 configuration, a significant participation for Indian industry, test and certification activities and eight aircraft delivered over a four year period“, the company has said, according to the report.

Picking the MMA would enable India to increase its maritime reconnaissance, submarine hunting and coastal patrol capabilities substantially, it said, but added that Boeing is expected to face competition for the Indian contract.

The MMA is based on the Boeing 737-800 commercial airliner featuring twin CFM56-7 jet engines by General Electric.

“We have proposed a unique system that will enhance the capability of the Indian Navy in anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare” said Rick Buck, the Boeing programme manager for P-8A international programmes.

“The increased range, speed, radius of action and advanced combat power inherent in our 21st century solution will enable the Indian Navy to fully patrol and influence events in its entire operational region.

“Additionally, the commonality inherent in our solution will greatly enhance the interoperability and supportability objectives publicly supported by both the US and Indian navies,” the report quoted him as saying.

BIO, agreed the main design is probly already frozen – but like you said they may very well develop a “variant” for Indian needs, why would the Brahmns be out of question esp. since the IN seems to set store by it?

Regards,
USS.

Russian weapons will not be integrated on US platforms. Period.

Yeah but Brahmos is not exactly a Russian weapon. Much of the development was done by India too…so P8 with Brahmos may be a possibility esp. since they are offering India the option to codevelop P8.

Regards,
USS.

Here is something that is actually being done – Su-30MKI takes off with full bombload from Pune (Mahrashtra), bombs a range in Pokhran (Rajasthan), -> IFR -> bombs a range in North East India -> IFR -> does a “mission” over the andaman islands and returns to Pune. Calculate what the related range covered is, with two IFRs and full bombload.

Egadzooks man! you are always bringing in news to gawk at…simply awesome 😮

Regards,
USS.