I posted the same opinoin in two forums.
im guilty as charged
nuff from me
this is not debate nor dicussion its just arguing. I come to the conclusion whatever i write you always have some twist in it
bye bye 🙂
nuff from me
this is not debate nor dicussion its just arguing. I come to the conclusion whatever i write you always have some twist in it
bye bye 🙂
IAF to level of the PLAAF?.
If your lucky that is 🙂
BVK you yourself are trolling in this thread :rolleyes:
Constant squallbling………..
Your links showed some indicators to this yes, but they did, at best explain only some of the proximate reasons how chinese downfall came. Neither there was any indications to the comparision this devolpment to European one, nor there was any indications that you would have understand it yourself
Im just wondering if you read the articles or my post at all
I gave my opinion of why europe increase its lead and providing reasons and examples of this while my articles explain why china became inward instead of outward. I can cut and paste my post to prove to you i wrote it all
Marxism hasent been flop at all?? What make you think so?
Because the advert of Leninism-Marxism. Marixism had flaws in its original theory which lenin had to correct in his own forms
If china would have been led trough Soviet ways, China migth be at the moment, a true superpower, close to domination…
The reason the cultral revolution and and great leap forward where needed were because of the expereince in soviet production. Figures are just figures. Goals to achieve dont bring development. If china had earlier experience with capitalism it would be a true superpower.
Take japan for a example. If china only opened it doors earlier
Crazy stuff??
Fall of the industralised west in favour of communism was one
Constant squallbling………..
Your links showed some indicators to this yes, but they did, at best explain only some of the proximate reasons how chinese downfall came. Neither there was any indications to the comparision this devolpment to European one, nor there was any indications that you would have understand it yourself
Im just wondering if you read the articles or my post at all
I gave my opinion of why europe increase its lead and providing reasons and examples of this while my articles explain why china became inward instead of outward. I can cut and paste my post to prove to you i wrote it all
Marxism hasent been flop at all?? What make you think so?
Because the advert of Leninism-Marxism. Marixism had flaws in its original theory which lenin had to correct in his own forms
If china would have been led trough Soviet ways, China migth be at the moment, a true superpower, close to domination…
The reason the cultral revolution and and great leap forward where needed were because of the expereince in soviet production. Figures are just figures. Goals to achieve dont bring development. If china had earlier experience with capitalism it would be a true superpower.
Take japan for a example. If china only opened it doors earlier
Crazy stuff??
Fall of the industralised west in favour of communism was one
Pfffffffff…….
Is that your only response?
Chinese govt supresses the incidents and if leaked tries to bring out as little as possible. just like Bird flu.
What does that have to do with credibility?. The chinese government does not publish falsified information unlike ET which publishes anything it can find. Sure the chinese media doesn’t give every detail about events but it doesn’t effect their credibility when you quote them.
You hear the neo-cons in america quote from the Epoch Times about chinese human rights?. No. You hear the BBC using the Epoch Times as a source of information? No.
WHO Refutes Claims Bird Flu Originated in China
http://english.people.com.cn/200401/31/eng20040131_133590.shtml
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-01/31/content_301903.htm
http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2004/february/01/index.htm
http://bird-flu-news.newslib.com/2004013123/
How is EPOC into such practises?
LoL
If you actually do read and know about the Epoch Times you will know that the founder and owner alone with the jorunalist are all falun Gong practioners. When you are under the influence of a cult you write what they believe. Seeing as how you wouldn’t have a clue about either Falun Gong nor the Epoch times yo shouldn’t be making claims just to stir things up
On thwe village idiot comment, you have no better reputation. tell me how better you are than me?
Because im just better 😉 Or if you want here is one of your more outstanding displays of sheer intelligence
Chickos more intelligent display
Chicko why the name change?
chicko is brute gorilla? :confused:
That explains the behaviour. Known as the village idiot
pffff………….
Is that you have to say?. Im wasting my time then since you dont have a clue about how to start off a debate. Im going to be nice here and start off myself. It seems like i wont be able to embarras you since you are to ignorant to understand when you have been debuked
READ
“The burden of proof lies with the one making claims againest general consensus“
It is againest general consensus because no one takes the Epoch times seriously. First they started off as a all chinese government hating organisation now they are broading because they had 0 subscriptions. Here is a example why
“This latest attack on its own people by the Chinese government reminds the West of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre and has drawn serious attention globally. It seems the best estimate of the death toll so far stands at 70”
Massacre in China Draws Global Attention
The death toll was only 3.
Here
Leading CCP official argues for exterminating U.S. population
This is one of the funnier ones. This was not even confirmed and they even got the dates wrong but they still published it as credible information. THis one got a lot of laughs in forums
And here
Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party
Its about 100 or so pages denocuing the CCCP. which you can bring any point from it and i will debuke it. Everything they write lacks credibility. Notice why the Epoch times is not a renowned newspaper and is not even used as a credible source of information even though they are the only one with this “information” . What is really funny is you are some naive 10 year old kid that wouldn’t have a clue what you are saying. I forum around and no one takes anything the epoch times seriously. Unless they jsut rip a article of the BBC
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Falun gong is a cult
Cult as defined by Dictionary.com
1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.(Li Hongzhi)
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.(yes)
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.(yes)
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.(not a disease but external life though reincarnation)
5.
1. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.(yes their creator Li Hongzhi)
2. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.(in a way)
Aliens
Some of Mr Li’s pronouncements are certainly unconventional, some would say just plain strange.
He believes aliens walk the Earth and he has reportedly said he can walk through walls and make himself invisible.
Mr Li says that he is a being from from a higher level who has come to help humankind from the destruction it could face as the result of rampant evil.
BBC article here. all about the creator of Falun Gong
Now you give me a recent example why chinese media is un-reliable?
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I’ll also start you off.
Peoples daily
PLA daily
Xinhua
Bring some articles. We’ll make it larger into chinese indian borders. taiwan situation tibet?. Everything. Ill address you all
crobato,
Nicely wrote article considering that that timeframe was breaking news information. It might be updated now but its a good reference for information
Anyone else you know that goes here or to CMF?
Why should I, its up to you to prove why it is not. I have no dispute with it. EPOCH is more credible!
The burden of proof lies with the one making claims againest general consensus. Im not making the claim you are, so the burden lies on you not I
I saw your article about chinas Flankers but it was under the name crobato. So i just thought you weren’t active there
crobato.
Your Tam from CDF? 😮
What you wrote is almost indentical to what i was repeating a few times already. My links refered it almost the same but in a more interesting manner. Why didn’t you read what i wrote?
But in reality there is only one mechanism to achieve it…
Well, In theory there is only one way and that is world revolution. But in practice even Leninism-Marxism has proven to be a failure while Marxism was a complete flop in real life
The actions of Russian revolution were impulses but the theoryes were born before that. Marxism-Leninism was more of product of practical experience to expand the idea of revolution and sosialistic chanching phase
Neither was Maosim. That some theory Mao just woke up and throught himself. It was somethig which had evoled over the three different militry bases. Jiangxi Soviet to Yuannan base then to manchuria. This was all developed on the way with practical experience. This was not just siting in a room then just writing down thoughts it was practical experinece ained with these bases
Marxism-Leninism was the product of practical experience but only so because Marx predicted alot of crazy things that wouldn’t happen. So lenin had to change the theory and ways to achieve in in his own interuptation
What you wrote is almost indentical to what i was repeating a few times already. My links refered it almost the same but in a more interesting manner. Why didn’t you read what i wrote?
But in reality there is only one mechanism to achieve it…
Well, In theory there is only one way and that is world revolution. But in practice even Leninism-Marxism has proven to be a failure while Marxism was a complete flop in real life
The actions of Russian revolution were impulses but the theoryes were born before that. Marxism-Leninism was more of product of practical experience to expand the idea of revolution and sosialistic chanching phase
Neither was Maosim. That some theory Mao just woke up and throught himself. It was somethig which had evoled over the three different militry bases. Jiangxi Soviet to Yuannan base then to manchuria. This was all developed on the way with practical experience. This was not just siting in a room then just writing down thoughts it was practical experinece ained with these bases
Marxism-Leninism was the product of practical experience but only so because Marx predicted alot of crazy things that wouldn’t happen. So lenin had to change the theory and ways to achieve in in his own interuptation