There isent no doupt that America and Austrailia hasent got european ancestors and therefore continiuing cultural heritage of that mediterinian civilications born in 3000 years ago. Claiming that Japanese and Chinese immigrants have so big affect on American cultural consuence is like saying that a single pirch tree among the pines make forrest a grove
You dont know australian or american society do you?. What are you basing this thinking on?. I live in a one of the countries mentioned and i treat america like a bigger australia and new zealand like america treats canada. Europeans are the biggest factor in the rise of america post-45. Saying that what makes you think america or australia is a continuence of european culture?. Please i would like to know where you get these ideas from. I live around melbounre which is the biggest or second biggest locations of australian culture. Now you tell me if you seen, been, heard or talked to someone in australia or who told you about being a european base of culture. Where to the similarities even start?
Just because europeans were the first and the majority population it does not make them percentage wise the largest contributing factor to the rise of america. Japanese, chinese, african, indian native american middle eastern people are all contributed in the fields of sciene and development. No i did not state the chinese immigrants or japanese immigrants established the whole of the america, i named some minorities and aid other minorities. But there is no doubt sian culture influences the east coast of america. San fransico or los angelas and Seattle are asian hold outs. America australia are multi-cultral societies they are not european societies
But as you seem to be little lost in overall I shall help you (and others a bit)
Maybe you are the lost one since you are the one correcting people for something you wrote. Me, hamburger and Tribal are all lost to what you are trying to define
I wrote this before but you probaly missed it
“I should have asked at the start what is in your meaning of domination?. For all i know you are trying to compare a apple to a banna. And lets see if domination is a word you should be using”
If trying to understand why Europe has rised to dominance among its siblings
You are claiming that europe is the current dominator while you cannot prove they dominate in anything nor any current european power which dominates. As of now Asian powers dominate the globe. They dominate world markets and export the most goods. No one power in the world has ever achieved true global power. Not the british french or even todays america. Because it is not global they cannot go any where they want nor do anything they want. They are counter balanced in a few regions. They dont dominate the globe but can dominate a part of a globe.
But to think about it, The west spread out because of religion. Western missionaries converting people to god like the muslims and saladin, Thinking more about this it was god which told them to exploer and convert pagans. While china had buddism which was more pacifistic and taoism which had teaching of buddism. Thinking about when the europeans powers went missionaris came alone also. Africa, Dutch east indies Hong Kong. Most of the colonies which the europeans powers colonized also got religionzed also. Region a major factor in western explainsion. yes
and you dont have to sound smart by telling theoryes and historyes of communism to an actual communist like myself. Communism isent an theory but actual level of sosietyes when we were born, and ultimate level of us when we advance to higher levels
I never said communism was a theory.
Im just correcting your inaccuraties, Its not smart its general knowledge. I dont believe your a communist but what the heck I trust you as much as **** on a stick. Being a communist does not make you more intelligable in matters like this .Maosim fundentual values are similar to marxism but completely differnt to where it is aimed.
Here is one of his famous quotes
“political power comes from the barrel of the gun”
The aim of this is differnt the type of Socialism is differnt. If you ever read anything published by mao vs Maxrism-Leninism style communism you are very wrong. Start off here
Manifesto of the Communist Party
[url=http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/classics/mao/index.html%5DMaosim
You think your a communist member, This is coming from someone which parents lived through the cultral revolution and whos grandfather joined the communist party at 17 and was the collective mayor until 55.
You know about MAO?
this is your change to prove your claims to be so exelent depater
Proving something is not what i need nor want to you. I already know your level and quite frankly I like to challenge you to debate whenever to see you sramble for answers. Debatings is not about who keeps off personal attacks its about presenting facts or theory why this happened or why it didn’t its a X vs Y examination.
As of now you have not provided proof of why nor stated a proper reason for this occuring or stated what is your angle. Debate is about having a good vision of what you hvae
There isent no doupt that America and Austrailia hasent got european ancestors and therefore continiuing cultural heritage of that mediterinian civilications born in 3000 years ago. Claiming that Japanese and Chinese immigrants have so big affect on American cultural consuence is like saying that a single pirch tree among the pines make forrest a grove
You dont know australian or american society do you?. What are you basing this thinking on?. I live in a one of the countries mentioned and i treat america like a bigger australia and new zealand like america treats canada. Europeans are the biggest factor in the rise of america post-45. Saying that what makes you think america or australia is a continuence of european culture?. Please i would like to know where you get these ideas from. I live around melbounre which is the biggest or second biggest locations of australian culture. Now you tell me if you seen, been, heard or talked to someone in australia or who told you about being a european base of culture. Where to the similarities even start?
Just because europeans were the first and the majority population it does not make them percentage wise the largest contributing factor to the rise of america. Japanese, chinese, african, indian native american middle eastern people are all contributed in the fields of sciene and development. No i did not state the chinese immigrants or japanese immigrants established the whole of the america, i named some minorities and aid other minorities. But there is no doubt sian culture influences the east coast of america. San fransico or los angelas and Seattle are asian hold outs. America australia are multi-cultral societies they are not european societies
But as you seem to be little lost in overall I shall help you (and others a bit)
Maybe you are the lost one since you are the one correcting people for something you wrote. Me, hamburger and Tribal are all lost to what you are trying to define
I wrote this before but you probaly missed it
“I should have asked at the start what is in your meaning of domination?. For all i know you are trying to compare a apple to a banna. And lets see if domination is a word you should be using”
If trying to understand why Europe has rised to dominance among its siblings
You are claiming that europe is the current dominator while you cannot prove they dominate in anything nor any current european power which dominates. As of now Asian powers dominate the globe. They dominate world markets and export the most goods. No one power in the world has ever achieved true global power. Not the british french or even todays america. Because it is not global they cannot go any where they want nor do anything they want. They are counter balanced in a few regions. They dont dominate the globe but can dominate a part of a globe.
But to think about it, The west spread out because of religion. Western missionaries converting people to god like the muslims and saladin, Thinking more about this it was god which told them to exploer and convert pagans. While china had buddism which was more pacifistic and taoism which had teaching of buddism. Thinking about when the europeans powers went missionaris came alone also. Africa, Dutch east indies Hong Kong. Most of the colonies which the europeans powers colonized also got religionzed also. Region a major factor in western explainsion. yes
and you dont have to sound smart by telling theoryes and historyes of communism to an actual communist like myself. Communism isent an theory but actual level of sosietyes when we were born, and ultimate level of us when we advance to higher levels
I never said communism was a theory.
Im just correcting your inaccuraties, Its not smart its general knowledge. I dont believe your a communist but what the heck I trust you as much as **** on a stick. Being a communist does not make you more intelligable in matters like this .Maosim fundentual values are similar to marxism but completely differnt to where it is aimed.
Here is one of his famous quotes
“political power comes from the barrel of the gun”
The aim of this is differnt the type of Socialism is differnt. If you ever read anything published by mao vs Maxrism-Leninism style communism you are very wrong. Start off here
Manifesto of the Communist Party
[url=http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/classics/mao/index.html%5DMaosim
You think your a communist member, This is coming from someone which parents lived through the cultral revolution and whos grandfather joined the communist party at 17 and was the collective mayor until 55.
You know about MAO?
this is your change to prove your claims to be so exelent depater
Proving something is not what i need nor want to you. I already know your level and quite frankly I like to challenge you to debate whenever to see you sramble for answers. Debatings is not about who keeps off personal attacks its about presenting facts or theory why this happened or why it didn’t its a X vs Y examination.
As of now you have not provided proof of why nor stated a proper reason for this occuring or stated what is your angle. Debate is about having a good vision of what you hvae
I would imagine the average wage would be the PPP figure i gave. And yes i know its a retirment page for british pensioners but it gives you a good example of the cost of living
BTW: Its 22 dollars in australian currency
I would imagine the average wage would be the PPP figure i gave. And yes i know its a retirment page for british pensioners but it gives you a good example of the cost of living
BTW: Its 22 dollars in australian currency
and why are you using Australian dollars in “Asia” Asia is alot of countries.. 2 Australian dollars won’t get you much in Japan.
Because if you ever been there, any know currency is taken. Greenbacks Yen Euro aussie dollar are all taken as money instead of malaysian money. But thats only coming from someone which has actually been there been there. Singapore is the stop off place for nearly every australian flight sometimes you stay for one hour to transit or you wait one week and go inot malaysia
We arent comparing japan/tokyo we are comaing malaysia to france. A example was coffee in paris was about $20 a cup while in malaysia/kula lumpur you got get a whole meal for $2. Living cost txes and such are extremely high in france and italy. Milan is a very expensive city to.
and why are you using Australian dollars in “Asia” Asia is alot of countries.. 2 Australian dollars won’t get you much in Japan.
Because if you ever been there, any know currency is taken. Greenbacks Yen Euro aussie dollar are all taken as money instead of malaysian money. But thats only coming from someone which has actually been there been there. Singapore is the stop off place for nearly every australian flight sometimes you stay for one hour to transit or you wait one week and go inot malaysia
We arent comparing japan/tokyo we are comaing malaysia to france. A example was coffee in paris was about $20 a cup while in malaysia/kula lumpur you got get a whole meal for $2. Living cost txes and such are extremely high in france and italy. Milan is a very expensive city to.
Cost of living
Several retirees have calculated that their living expenses within Malaysia are far less then their tax savings making it, in effect, cost free to live here. Property prices are low: a three-bedroomed apartment in a condominium in Penang is available from £36,000. Utility charges are low and with temperatures never dropping below 22oC at night, there is no need for central heating. Air-conditioning is normally considered essential, at least for the bedrooms. Even if air-conditioning is used regularly, the total electricity bill should not exceed £600 per annum and many families only use half that amount.
There is no piped natural gas, but a large cylinder of LP gas is less than £2.20 including delivery, usually within four hours but often within 30 minutes. Telephone land lines cost £3.90 per month and local calls are the equivalent of four pence a minute. The cheapest international calls are via call cards and a £4.30 card enables just under four hours of call time to the UK. Water and sewage combined charges average less than £3 a month. Postal charges are also well below those in the UK as a first class stamp costs less than five pence and an airmail post card to anywhere in the world costs seven pence.
Local domestic help is readily available and while it is not necessary to have a maid if living in a condominium, it certainly makes life more pleasant. Maids are available for £1.50 an hour and, for many couples, hiring a maid for just a few hours a day to do the washing, ironing and cleaning is sufficient.
A full-time live-in Indonesian maid can be hired for about £75 per month compared to £110 for an English-speaking maid from the Philippines. They can be obtained through an agency, but the best method is to take over a maid from a friend who is leaving, or to hire one on the recommendation of a friend. Most larger properties have an additional maid’s sleeping quarter. Public transport is much cheaper than in the UK (a 6-km bus ride costs about 10 pence). Cars, however, are significantly more expensive to buy than in the UK, especially imported models with a large engine capacity, while locally-assembled cars are about 10-15 per cent higher. (Foreigners coming in on the MM2H scheme are entitled to buy or import one car, tax and duty free, making it considerably cheaper than in the UK.) Running costs are very cheap; petrol is less than 20 pence per litre. Road tax for a two litre car is £57 and £18 for a one litre car. Third party insurance for all cars without a no-claims bonus is £14 per annum. A no-claims bonus can be transferred from a UK insurer. Imported cigarettes cost less than £1 a packet – local brands even less – while premium imported spirits are about £12 a bottle. Locally bottled gin, vodka, rum, brandy and whisky are available for less than £4 per bottle. They serve the purpose but for most expatriates the whisky is noticeably inferior to their usual proprietary brands.
http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ13/Retirement_In_Malaysia1.html
Here is something you should look into. French PPP is $29,990. Malaysia is $10,400. The things listed there are at least 3 times more cheaper than australia And france is more expensive than australia, so i would think that the malaysians can enjoy western or middle class lifestlyes with the money they make
Cost of living
Several retirees have calculated that their living expenses within Malaysia are far less then their tax savings making it, in effect, cost free to live here. Property prices are low: a three-bedroomed apartment in a condominium in Penang is available from £36,000. Utility charges are low and with temperatures never dropping below 22oC at night, there is no need for central heating. Air-conditioning is normally considered essential, at least for the bedrooms. Even if air-conditioning is used regularly, the total electricity bill should not exceed £600 per annum and many families only use half that amount.
There is no piped natural gas, but a large cylinder of LP gas is less than £2.20 including delivery, usually within four hours but often within 30 minutes. Telephone land lines cost £3.90 per month and local calls are the equivalent of four pence a minute. The cheapest international calls are via call cards and a £4.30 card enables just under four hours of call time to the UK. Water and sewage combined charges average less than £3 a month. Postal charges are also well below those in the UK as a first class stamp costs less than five pence and an airmail post card to anywhere in the world costs seven pence.
Local domestic help is readily available and while it is not necessary to have a maid if living in a condominium, it certainly makes life more pleasant. Maids are available for £1.50 an hour and, for many couples, hiring a maid for just a few hours a day to do the washing, ironing and cleaning is sufficient.
A full-time live-in Indonesian maid can be hired for about £75 per month compared to £110 for an English-speaking maid from the Philippines. They can be obtained through an agency, but the best method is to take over a maid from a friend who is leaving, or to hire one on the recommendation of a friend. Most larger properties have an additional maid’s sleeping quarter. Public transport is much cheaper than in the UK (a 6-km bus ride costs about 10 pence). Cars, however, are significantly more expensive to buy than in the UK, especially imported models with a large engine capacity, while locally-assembled cars are about 10-15 per cent higher. (Foreigners coming in on the MM2H scheme are entitled to buy or import one car, tax and duty free, making it considerably cheaper than in the UK.) Running costs are very cheap; petrol is less than 20 pence per litre. Road tax for a two litre car is £57 and £18 for a one litre car. Third party insurance for all cars without a no-claims bonus is £14 per annum. A no-claims bonus can be transferred from a UK insurer. Imported cigarettes cost less than £1 a packet – local brands even less – while premium imported spirits are about £12 a bottle. Locally bottled gin, vodka, rum, brandy and whisky are available for less than £4 per bottle. They serve the purpose but for most expatriates the whisky is noticeably inferior to their usual proprietary brands.
http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ13/Retirement_In_Malaysia1.html
Here is something you should look into. French PPP is $29,990. Malaysia is $10,400. The things listed there are at least 3 times more cheaper than australia And france is more expensive than australia, so i would think that the malaysians can enjoy western or middle class lifestlyes with the money they make
If we compare rural europe to rural asia both have about the same lifestlye. Thats a fact. The pay is smaller but living is cheaper to. Everything in france is expensive. One cup of coffee is 20dollars in paris. I have to work at least 2 hours to to afford a latte.
But in asia with 2 australians dollars i get a full course. Difference?
If we compare rural europe to rural asia both have about the same lifestlye. Thats a fact. The pay is smaller but living is cheaper to. Everything in france is expensive. One cup of coffee is 20dollars in paris. I have to work at least 2 hours to to afford a latte.
But in asia with 2 australians dollars i get a full course. Difference?
China need to secure its oil supply from the ME and now from Africa, so this base could becomre very useful for that purpose and at least to have some of it new “toys” from Russia training within the area.
I would think that land based piplines wuld be better for china.
Russia >> china.
Iran>>Afganistan>>China.
Iran>>Turkmenistan>>Kazakstan>>china
All these pipelines can lead to china so these recent manuverings buying oil fields and psening big is one of those bids to get the oil. Sudan to venezuela to Canada is about getting the oil before peak oil starts. China has good relations with central asia and started these relations when the soviets fell in the Shanghai Five.
China in the india ocean?. Sure, but after taiwan :diablo: . Its all about self protection
I forgot all about this, I should have asked at the start what is in your meaning of domination?. For all i know you are trying to compare a apple to a banna. And lets see if domination is a word you should be using
I forgot all about this, I should have asked at the start what is in your meaning of domination?. For all i know you are trying to compare a apple to a banna. And lets see if domination is a word you should be using
The idea is to ask why the current and all previous global powers have european ancestoryes rathern than Asian.
And this has already been stated.
The europeans where forced to look for resources to fight one another while in asia it was dominated by only one power which did not need nor want to look for outside empires. Each european power had some fight on their hands and the european continent had limited resources so fighting expensive war for little resources was a stupid idea. Instead they explanded to find cheap easily to get resources without much trouble. While china had resources had people and didn’t think anyone else in the world could challenge her.
Imagine all those western explorers bring boat loats of gold and silver just for some of the silk you had which didn’t cost you that much to make. Stroking your ego. The Ming dynasty had just destroyed the mongol empire and established a massive empire and massive navy and there was no challengers.
I think this article if you bother to read answers why
“The motives of the Western sea explorers and the Eastern treasure fleets were very different. The Chinese were essentially on a dignified tour of the civilized world, initially perhaps in a search for the deposed emperor, but ultimately for the rich gifts of tribute and for the prestige. The Europeans, on the other hand, were engaged in their bitter war with Islam and working for profit. De Zurara, chronicler of Prince Henry the Navigator, lists these motives for Prince Henry in priority order: (1) Cosmographical knowledge, (2) Profit of traffic, (3) Commerce, (4) War versus Islam, (5) Missionary zeal, and (6) the Prince’s famous horoscope.42 There were great economic considerations for the Europeans. In China, the economic considerations were reserved for the inland activities; overseas activities were wanton expenses without sufficient return demonstrated to warrant continuation. The Europeans were in competition with Islam and with each other; the Chinese acknowledged no competitors. In summary, the precipitous fall of Chinese seapower in the 15th century is not surprising. It was fragile even in its time of greatest glory during the treasure ship expeditions of the early Ming dynasty. As Ming China settled down into the more typical Chinese isolationist philosophy, increased efficiency of inland transport (notably an all weather capable Grand Canal) enabled a turning away from the sea and the coast line, and a reliance on a semi-static coastal militia vice a mobile sea-striking arm. This was to prove painfully inadequate against the 16th century large scale piratical activities of the Wo-k’ou (Chinese and Japanese sea mauraders who occupied large sections of coastal China for years).43 A balanced approach, in the twenty-twenty vision of hindsight, of a smaller but still capable Chinese navy with large seagoing warships, focused to developing and protecting Chinese overseas trade that generated prosperity for the country and generated more than enough tax revenue to pay for itself, would have been more effective and perhaps would have survived. The reasons for the dramatic fall of the 15th century Ming navy were political centralization argument in the country that consistently dominated the region, the struggle in the Imperial court between the Confucian courtiers and the palace eunuchs, the internal policy struggle of ideologies between foreign trade and isolationism. Isolationism won. Also, the navy had become dependent in the 15th century on just a few missions; large scale diplomacy to exact tribute, defense of the coast from sea pirates, and protection of coastal grain transport. The solidification of the new regime, and the completion of the Grand Canal summit water supply, removed two of the three missions by the mid 15th century. Finally, maritime threats were considered secondary in China to continental threats, and thus when Mongol border wars and limited resources pressed the Ming dynasty, the navy lost resources to the army. It was not a lack of nautical technology, but rather a combination of the above political and strategic factors that caused a Chinese rejection of sea trade and seapower in the mid-15th century. Ocean-going technology was subsequently lost in China due to official hostility and neglect.”
The rise and fall of 15th century chinese sea power
There is no doubt in my mind that china could have populated australia or had colonies in asia, india or africa. We had the knowledge of these areas we had bigger better boats when also had more baots than the spanish. Our firearms were comparable. The thing that stopped china was there was no need to. The dutch even offered to sell their muskets which were superior but we didn’t want them because china knew they were better but thought. Oh how could these barbarians beat us. etc, Just read the section of the article or the whole link
The idea is to ask why the current and all previous global powers have european ancestoryes rathern than Asian.
And this has already been stated.
The europeans where forced to look for resources to fight one another while in asia it was dominated by only one power which did not need nor want to look for outside empires. Each european power had some fight on their hands and the european continent had limited resources so fighting expensive war for little resources was a stupid idea. Instead they explanded to find cheap easily to get resources without much trouble. While china had resources had people and didn’t think anyone else in the world could challenge her.
Imagine all those western explorers bring boat loats of gold and silver just for some of the silk you had which didn’t cost you that much to make. Stroking your ego. The Ming dynasty had just destroyed the mongol empire and established a massive empire and massive navy and there was no challengers.
I think this article if you bother to read answers why
“The motives of the Western sea explorers and the Eastern treasure fleets were very different. The Chinese were essentially on a dignified tour of the civilized world, initially perhaps in a search for the deposed emperor, but ultimately for the rich gifts of tribute and for the prestige. The Europeans, on the other hand, were engaged in their bitter war with Islam and working for profit. De Zurara, chronicler of Prince Henry the Navigator, lists these motives for Prince Henry in priority order: (1) Cosmographical knowledge, (2) Profit of traffic, (3) Commerce, (4) War versus Islam, (5) Missionary zeal, and (6) the Prince’s famous horoscope.42 There were great economic considerations for the Europeans. In China, the economic considerations were reserved for the inland activities; overseas activities were wanton expenses without sufficient return demonstrated to warrant continuation. The Europeans were in competition with Islam and with each other; the Chinese acknowledged no competitors. In summary, the precipitous fall of Chinese seapower in the 15th century is not surprising. It was fragile even in its time of greatest glory during the treasure ship expeditions of the early Ming dynasty. As Ming China settled down into the more typical Chinese isolationist philosophy, increased efficiency of inland transport (notably an all weather capable Grand Canal) enabled a turning away from the sea and the coast line, and a reliance on a semi-static coastal militia vice a mobile sea-striking arm. This was to prove painfully inadequate against the 16th century large scale piratical activities of the Wo-k’ou (Chinese and Japanese sea mauraders who occupied large sections of coastal China for years).43 A balanced approach, in the twenty-twenty vision of hindsight, of a smaller but still capable Chinese navy with large seagoing warships, focused to developing and protecting Chinese overseas trade that generated prosperity for the country and generated more than enough tax revenue to pay for itself, would have been more effective and perhaps would have survived. The reasons for the dramatic fall of the 15th century Ming navy were political centralization argument in the country that consistently dominated the region, the struggle in the Imperial court between the Confucian courtiers and the palace eunuchs, the internal policy struggle of ideologies between foreign trade and isolationism. Isolationism won. Also, the navy had become dependent in the 15th century on just a few missions; large scale diplomacy to exact tribute, defense of the coast from sea pirates, and protection of coastal grain transport. The solidification of the new regime, and the completion of the Grand Canal summit water supply, removed two of the three missions by the mid 15th century. Finally, maritime threats were considered secondary in China to continental threats, and thus when Mongol border wars and limited resources pressed the Ming dynasty, the navy lost resources to the army. It was not a lack of nautical technology, but rather a combination of the above political and strategic factors that caused a Chinese rejection of sea trade and seapower in the mid-15th century. Ocean-going technology was subsequently lost in China due to official hostility and neglect.”
The rise and fall of 15th century chinese sea power
There is no doubt in my mind that china could have populated australia or had colonies in asia, india or africa. We had the knowledge of these areas we had bigger better boats when also had more baots than the spanish. Our firearms were comparable. The thing that stopped china was there was no need to. The dutch even offered to sell their muskets which were superior but we didn’t want them because china knew they were better but thought. Oh how could these barbarians beat us. etc, Just read the section of the article or the whole link