For some reason, half of my other post cant be seen?.
Anyway, if you fit a aircraft with a superior radar arm it with a superior missile, who do you think will win. When i look at aircraft, i mostly look at its weapons since most modern radars can detect targets way before its in useful range of its weapons
LCA was intended to incorporate a level of RCS reduction
The requirment for composites were due to the fact the LCA was underpowered and to heavy. Using composites lowered the takeoff weight since there was no alternative engine to use.
Large platforms by their very SIZE have more surface area to reflect radar waves by.
Yet that does not mean the LCA has a lower RCS because it is “an extremely small aircraft”
You were claiming the LCA has a smaller RCS signiture. Burden of proof is on you my dear.
There are rumours of operational proplems with the propulsion system onboard 052B/C.
What type of problems?. How were these rumours sourced?
And the LCA we must remember is an extremely small aircraft, plus is designed to have a low RCS
The plane was designed to be small and utilize composite materials. It wasn’t designed from the on set to have reduced RCS features.
And about the smaller aircraft having a smaller RCS, this might be true, but the RCS is mostle determinded by the shaping of the airframe instead of its actual size. So to claim it has a smaller RCS because of its size is ludacris.
We are comparing two different fighters, they were designed for different missions and have different capabilities, the J-10 being the better mud mover
Given that SIBNIA have been involved in the J-10 program in some capacity
But one thing about their statement contridicts what we know
“”The aircraft is more or less a version of the Lavi””
A version of a plane is a Block 15 and Block 52, Su-27 and Su-33, Hornet and Superhornet
We know that the ONLY thing the LAVI and J-10 share is the “general” layout, i cannot stress the word general enough. Basically two tailess, canard, deltas. Apart from the very general design, they share nothing in common. I would find it hard to believe that another company would not have tinker over a LAVI style fighter when they were designing the EF, rafale or gripen
For what its worth, the Russian SIBNIA institute
I’m still trying to find that article. The only reference i have of it is from BR forum and its only that little bit of information.
We need the whole article to see what his actually refering and motive
People talk about china having little knowledge of aircraft design while they automatically assume that israel has?
SOC,
I’m almost in total agreement with your post, BUT one member at this forum who worked on the LAVI project claimed it was american and british engineers which formed the majority of the design group. This version would make more sense considering israel had never designed a airplane before. What most reports state is israel’s help with avonics which was israels strong department considering all the EW and avonics for their own planes they developed
I just happened to come across this forum by chance, but you may be interested to know that I was one of the design engineers working on the Lavi project in 1983 thru 1986. I am not Israeli, I am a British aerospace structural designer, and there were nothing like 1,500 engineers on the project. There were about 500 in total, mostly British, with very few Israelis.
The Israelis mostly headed up groups, but relied heavily on British and American design expertise. Since the Lavi was cancelled some time ago, and most Israelis were made redundant, I cannot see how China would need any input from Israel.
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Russians say the J-10 is a more complex aircraft than the IAI lavi.
We dont need the russians to tell us that 🙂
you think that 10 years ago they would not do the same for a more complex aircraft like is the J-10?
This my friend is called a smoke screen. I asked for PROOF, i got nothing.
When you suggest something, you must have some proof instead of speculation.
you have a Russian engine in the J-10, radar proposals for the J-10 weaponry proposals
The only thing you can come up with is engine and two proposals :rolleyes: . Is that all the russian help?
How again are proposals somehow helping the development?. Considering that NONE of them were furfilled, how can you claim these fields as russian help?
And ukrainian technology not Russian technology
You claim these russian “articles”(which are user opinions) are factual yet their creditbilty is the same as a opinion poll. Ill give you an example
North Korea holds a opinion poll that the worlds worst, most evil country country is america. Some of the people have been to america and say its crap
The poll shows that everyone voted yes, What exactly does that mean even if everyone from a particular country agrees?
radar weaponry aerodynamics even Ukraine helped
Are suggesting you have proof what radar the J-10 uses?
Apart from the cannon, what weapons have been featured on the J-10 which are of russian origin
aerodynamics is a broad defination and can mean anything. I would like some proof and something speific
If Ukraine helped, that makes it one more source that russia couldn’t ahve used
Russia`s involvement goes beyond the engine and that is a know fact but you still denied what russian reports say.
Can you name some then? :rolleyes:
Sure they are different in the details, but they are clearly from the same bloodline.
Are you trying to refute the Yak bureau’s own statement?
If they are different in the details, how can you tell they are from the same blood line. considering that the L-15 was already a functioning project before Yak decided to join
Is it me, or are the landing gears and main gear doors carbon copies of each other?
They look different to me
The main difference between the L-15 and the Yak-130
How about the other major differences.
Canopy
Fuselage
Nose
Wings
Intakes
COntrol sufaces (tail)
Russian indeed know the J-10 program very well because they indeed took part in the development of the J-10
Lets say i worked on the development of the airbus engines.
Would i know how the rest of the aircraft was built?
Flawed logic