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  • in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #920005
    BobKat
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    Thanks Peter. As soon as I hear from Laurent, I will let you know whether the central item is fixed or whether it slides along the tube.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #920373
    BobKat
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    Peter, thanks for this thought. I attach an enlarged view of one end showing the screw thread extension. Is this what you would expect to see as part of the cable guide? If so, this is a clear possibility, but item 92 was found quite some distance from the CSU cable (90A).

    I had at first wondered whether it could be a brace connection on the undercarriage but, although made of steel, it would seem to be not sufficiently substantial to be load bearing. And what would be the function of the threaded attachment?

    Sorry for the confusion, but what I had been trying to describe as a Control Rod, is included in the Parts List as part of the flying controls and is described as a “tie rod” which seems to be much smaller in dimension. Similar pieces are shown by the diagrams as linked to a chain connection in a number of places. The length is not shown, but the diagrams indicate that some of these could be a little like our item. Is this a possibility, or am I on completely the wrong track?

    You will note a part reference number on Laurent’s picture: this appears to be [Edit] 900 W 110 VY12, which is not a number I recognise in the parts list, and is not like the Air Ministry numbers. Maybe someone recognises this style of numbering?

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #920949
    BobKat
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    Good to hear from you WV-903. We seem to be thinking along similar lines about 90C.

    I have a copy of “The Lancaster Manual” and it has certainly proved useful with some identifications, particularly when used in conjunction with a Parts List.

    The more time that passes, the less I think that an engine is likely still to be buried in the forest. There were great hopes for the crater in the north-east corner, but in the end it only yielded some brake shoes. Laurent has found plenty of engine parts – my best guess is that they were scattered on impact, and that what remained of the engines was removed with the fuselage after the war ended. But who knows what Laurent might come up with?

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #921146
    BobKat
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    Despite several hundred views since my last post, it seems as if identification of all but one of the recent finds has proved elusive. Many thanks for the one identification, Peter – that was a great picture you posted. I have added the items to the photo gallery.

    Laurent has found two more items over the weekend.

    No.92 is approximately a one metre length of steel rod with a screw thread extending at one end. Could this be a piece of flying control rod? I have asked Laurent to confirm the diameter of the piece. My parts list says that the smaller rods were 5/16ths or 9/32nds inches in diameter. [Edit: Laurent has confirmed that the diameter is 10.20 mm, which is about 0.4 inches – so perhaps not right for a control rod?]

    No.93 is an electrical element in green coloured porcelain with a steel coil. Presumably this is likely to be from an item of radio or radar equipment?

    If anyone has any ideas to confirm what these may be, I should be glad to hear.

    Photo-gallery:
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BCF75E8AD40ADF0D!164&authkey=!AJrxfdmdr6MXSdw&ithint=folder%2cjpg

    Index to parts found and annotated illustrations:
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=bcf75e8ad40adf0d!1426&authkey=!AAJOZyTYrN-x0CQ&ithint=folder%2cjpg

    BobKat
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    Hennie,

    The bottles marked 6D/483 are listed as cylinders from the oxygen economiser system, so your second thoughts are right!

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #844408
    BobKat
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    Laurent has provided a bit more information about items 90C and 90D.

    90C is circular and held something substantial. I wonder whether it might have been a piece attached to the engine sub-frame to support something such as the oil cooler?

    90D appears to be made of magnesium alloy which suggests that it may be part of the engine or supercharger casing.

    Any further comments are welcome.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #847160
    BobKat
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    I now have some more information from Laurent about the most recent finds.

    90C: it is difficult to be sure, but it looks as if this piece has two parallel bolts attached to a semi-circular fitting and an extended strip on one side. It does not seem to have been significantly distorted. The internal diameter of the circular part is about 4.5 cm (1¾ in).

    90D: Peter originally thought this might be part of the bomb winch cable fitting. A closer look shows that this is an asymmetric piece with bolt holes and shape as shown in the attached diagram. The internal diameter of the central hole is about 2.8 cm (a little over 1 in), and the piece is about 7.5 to 8 cm long (around 3 in). Does anybody recognise this shape? All the bulkhead attachment plates and unions I can see in diagrams and photographs are round, otherwise this would have been a possibility. So where might this peculiarly shaped piece have been fitted?

    91: The diameter of the thin circular plate is 8.6 cm (3⅜ in). The holes look a little delicate, and I had wondered whether it might be part of one of the pilot’s instruments, but it seems more likely to be an engine part – maybe electrical – perhaps from the magneto? It has a number 13626. I have seen a picture of a similar ‘relic’ where it is described as being from a Seafire, but with no other details, so maybe from a Merlin engine? The other piece is a mystery – it is 9 cm long (3½ in). It has a number 120202. Neither of these numbers would appear to be Air Ministry numbers, so presumably from an independent manufacturer.

    Any further thoughts would be welcome.

    Photo-gallery:
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BCF75E8AD40ADF0D!164&authkey=!AJrxfdmdr6MXSdw&ithint=folder%2cjpg

    Index to parts found and annotated illustrations:
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=bcf75e8ad40adf0d!1426&authkey=!AAJOZyTYrN-x0CQ&ithint=folder%2cjpg

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #850372
    BobKat
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    Many thanks Dairwin – a Constant Speed Linkage seems to confirm Peter’s description.

    Given that the pieces were found close to each other, perhaps 90C could also be engine-related? There’s quite a sizable bolt at one end.

    Peter, I have had a look at our item 14 in the photo gallery – the bomb hoist point. The shape of the base plate of 90D with its bolt holes isn’t the same – but maybe there are different parts?

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #850587
    BobKat
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    Many thanks Peter – great spot for 90A. I assume you meant 90D not 900 as the bomb winch cable guide. We already have one of these – I will compare the two.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #850677
    BobKat
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    After a long period of inactivity, Laurent has at last found a few more pieces along the edge of the forest.

    Items 90A/B/C/D were found close to where pieces of the main fuselage have previously been found, and item 91 near some pieces identified as being from an engine.

    90A is quite distinctive and may well be engine-related.
    90B looks like a piece of heavy duty electrical cable.
    90C may again be engine-related.
    90D may be a bracket through which piping passes – it has a distinctive shape to the flat base plate.

    I have asked Laurent for more information about the size of the two items in picture 91. The flat circular piece looks as if it could be the face of an instrument of some sort. The other piece is very distinctively shaped, but I have no idea what it might be.

    Does anyone have any ideas about any of these new items, please? (They have been pictured in reverse order!!)

    Photo-gallery:
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BCF75E8AD40ADF0D!164&authkey=!AJrxfdmdr6MXSdw&ithint=folder%2cjpg

    Index to parts found and annotated illustrations:
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=bcf75e8ad40adf0d!1426&authkey=!AAJOZyTYrN-x0CQ&ithint=folder%2cjpg

    BobKat
    Participant

    In my ‘off-line’ chat with Hennie, I wondered whether the red pipework (if it was not from agricultural machinery) might come from a gun turret hydraulic system, or possibly even the emergency oxygen supply system. Does anyone have any further thoughts? All hydraulic pipes found at the ED908 site have been painted green or are silvery in appearance, and I am not aware of other coloured piping being used.

    BobKat
    Participant

    No nothing new – I imagine the weather has put Laurent off doing much over the last few months! I’ll ask him for an update, and will post something on the ED908 thread if there is anything to report.

    BobKat
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    Hennie, as far as I am aware the buckles were all brass.

    BobKat
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    Hello Hennie, and a belated Happy New Year.

    I can’t help with any of the numbered items, but the top item looks very similar to an item which was part of a parachute harness found in 1944 at the ED908 site. You can see the pictures of a small group of harness fittings in the photo gallery on the thread.

    BobKat
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    Hennie,

    Glad to see that the mysterious fire equipment piece has been identified. The bulkhead union in your latest pictures may well be one of those depicted in the diagram attached to my post #125. I assume there is no part number visible or you would have said.

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