Larry, you have found a few interesting pieces, but so far I cannot see anything similar to any of the identified pieces from ED908. As WV-903 says, have a look through the photo-gallery of the wreckage of ED908 – there is a link on what is currently the last post (#783) on the thread if you haven’t already found it.
I have just added a higher resolution photo of the crash axe to the photo-gallery, pictured below. It is marked ELWELL 1941 21F/1 with an Air Ministry crown and a triangular inspection mark.
Excellent news, Steve – glad he was able to help.
Many of the ORBs can now be downloaded online in pdf form from the National Archives website at a small cost for each month required.l Maybe you could save yourself a journey?
Thanks for looking, Peter. I think I now have pictures of everything Laurent has found to date in the photo-gallery. Let’s hope there will be some more to add in due course.
I have added a few more of Laurent’s pictures to the photo-gallery, mostly giving different or enlarged views of items already included. There are several more of pieces found at location 40 (M6) – these are thought most likely to be engine-related, including the one shown below. The top piece has some distinctive features, as also does the piece just below the centre on the right.
Any ideas anyone?
If anyone recognises any of the currently unidentified pieces when browsing the photo-gallery, it would be much appreciated if you could please let me know by posting a comment on the thread. The captions can be seen when viewing the pictures in slideshow mode (click on one of the pictures to open). After a few photos of the early finds, the pictures are arranged by location number, which is roughly in chronological order of discovery. There are now 200 pictures of the wreckage found and it is remarkable how much has been identified thanks to members of the Forum.
The link to the photo-gallery is below:
Lucky_Larry, you have a few pieces of fuselage not dissimilar to some of the unidentified fragments from ED908. Hopefully Peter may recognise some of the other pieces.
Lucky_Larry,
Good luck with your researches – I hope the photo-gallery on this thread (link at the bottom of post #769) might help you.
The Lancaster Manual is available from Amazon (and no doubt elsewhere) – new copies look a bit expensive compared with what I remember paying for mine some time ago, but the used versions may well suit. It contains a reproduction of AP2062A. The Parts Catalogue extracts on this thread have mostly been provided by other forum members and are, I think, Avro listings. You may find the library at RAF Hendon of some help if you want to pursue this. If you want to post photos of what you have for possible identification, I suggest you start your own thread for forum members to help you.
Many thanks for the new pictures , Peter. I can now see the size of the piece in relation to the other parts.
Peter, since you kindly posted the two photos of what I think are supercharger rams, I have been trying to see exactly where they were located, thus far without success. Do you have anything which would help?
Steve,
My interest is in Lancaster ED908, shot down nearby attacking the V1 site at the Foret du Croc on 20 July 1944. In the course of my research a local resident, I think living in Bellencombre, contacted me about the crew in which you are interested.
On his behalf, I have searched the index at the National Archives with the following results:
The following records have been digitised and are available at a cost of £3.30 each
Thomas W White: Escape WO 208/3322/2298
Archie R Shoebottom: Escape WO 208/3322/2299
Richard Mosley and AG Ross: Escape WO 208/3324/73
WJ Hardisty: Escape WO 208/3350/1055 – this report has not been digitised but can be ordered
GA Price: Escape WO 208/3350/1225 – this report has not survived.
If you would like to be put in touch with the chap in France, please send me a private message and I will see what I can do. You will probably need to correspond in French – I use Google Translate!!
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There seems to be some inconsistency with the crew names! However I believe he was researching two crews one from ME628 (KM-V) and the other ND339 (ZN-U). I hope this helps.
Many thanks, Peter. I was hoping the additional pictures might help in identification. I have altered the descriptions in the photo gallery.
Over the weekend I have been adding a number of pictures to the photo gallery – not new items, but views of existing pieces taken from different angles, so as to provide a more comprehensive record of the items found.
Since returning from our visit to France last month, there have been some 3,000 views of the thread, the total of which has now accumulated to over 70,000. As there have been only a few new posts, I can only assume that the photo gallery has stimulated interest. I will continue to update this with new finds, but these are now likely to be less frequent. Laurent’s permit to use his metal detector in the forest has recently expired and, although he could ask for a renewal, we now have a fairly clear idea of where the pieces of the aircraft came to earth, and there may now be little further knowledge to be gained by further searches. Laurent believes there may be other areas which he could explore, so he is considering how best to proceed.
In the course of adding the new pictures to the gallery I came across a couple of extra views of one of the items pictured in post #740 at location 74. Does the reference number of the piece or these new pictures trigger any thoughts in anyone’s mind? Laurent thinks it may be engine related.
I attach two new pictures of a number of parachute harness fittings which were shown to me at the time of our visit last month by a local resident whose grandfather retrieved these at the time the aircraft crashed. These may be from the harness of an unopened parachute removed from one of the fallen airmen thrown clear of the aircraft as we have an eye-witness report that parachute silk was used to make blouses.
I have seen a number of references to parachute harnesses including 15A/137, 15A/141 and 15A/191. It is only the latter which seems to show the square fitting pictured at the bottom right in the first picture, but there may be other versions.
At the top left in the first picture is a fitting from the parachute pack to which the clip on the harness, also pictured separately below, was attached. At the top centre is an oval buckle with a thin central spindle: at the top right is a similar but squarer buckle where the central spindle has snapped – the narrower ends have a flattened flange. At the left in the bottom row is a symmetrical buckle: in the centre is another buckle where the apertures are of different dimensions, the upper being larger, and on the right is a square fitting. I have added these pictures to the photo gallery, the link to which is below.
On the assumption that the fittings are all from the same harness, if anyone knows which type this would have been, I would be interested to hear. I assume that all the crew would have been allotted their own personal parachutes and that these would not have been drawn from the stores on the occasion of each sortie. Maybe someone can confirm?
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I have just received a few photos from France and I have added the following picture to the OneDrive gallery. It illustrates the extent of the welcome we received from our French hosts in the Seine-Maritime area last month.
As yet, there is nothing further to report on any more wreckage. I imagine the forest undergrowth currently remains impenetrable!