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  • in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #992499
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    How about this? This may not be the only one on the underside?

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #992507
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    Peter, hope this helps – also a better picture of the first side.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #992695
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    I visited the RAF Museum at Hendon yesterday and had an opportunity (accompanied with consent) to have a closer look at the undercarriage of “S-Sugar”. The attached photo shows the top of the mechanic’s step on the landing gear strut for comparison with our pieces 45 and 50.

    The flurry of activity in France has slowed, but there have been a couple more finds. The first was another brake shoe at location 53 in similar condition to those found at location 12 – no need for another picture – and a few more items at location 45. Here, there is what appears to be an intact flanged rectangular piece with two bolted attachments on the left with a decidedly golden hue, and what is presumably an electrical fitting marked Z126143 5X/112 (see picture). If anyone has any ideas about these, I should be glad to hear.

    It is time to pause and reflect on what has been found and also what has not been found. On the eastern edge of the forest (items M5, M6, 40, and 45 to 49) there are items that are clearly engine parts and pieces from the undercarriage. The recent finds, 50 to 53, were mostly located along the northern edge of the forest (see the attached detail from the map of the site) and include the second piece of the mechanic’s step on the undercarriage (50), the unidentified spindle (51), an AGS fitting (52), and a brake shoe (53). Two brake shoes have previously been discovered at location 12 where it had been thought that the undercarriage had fallen. The two pieces of the mechanic’s step (45 and 50) were found about 100 yards apart from each other and all these pieces are over 200 yards from where the main fuselage came to rest.

    It is beginning to look as if the (presumed) port undercarriage was shattered on impact (or by an explosion) and that parts were scattered, mostly ending up on the eastern edge of the forest, but possibly with a few pieces along the northern edge. It could be that part is buried near location 12 with the remains of an engine, but what may be more likely (as there no evidence of any intact wing parts) is that whatever substantially sized pieces of wreckage survived would have been removed from the site at much the same time as the main fuselage. This would probably have included whatever was left of the port engines after the mid-air explosion.

    My guess is therefore that all that is now likely to be found after Laurent’s recent efforts are more fragments like those already unearthed. But when the weather improves, who knows what could come to light at the corner of the forest?

    In the meantime if anyone has any more ideas about anything in the recent postings, please let me know.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #995444
    BobKat
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    Peter, you are working hard – many thanks! The latest picture is beginning to look decidedly hopeful, although I cannot quite see how exactly our pieces would fit. Perhaps they are differently shaped as they work outwards? But this does looks to be the likely use for our pieces. Much appreciated.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #995453
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    I agree with you, Peter, that our spindle (51A) does not appear to be from the undercarriage locking system – as you say the the end looks wrong. We will probably have to leave that as unresolved.

    As for our Tufnol items (the small piece from 47 and 49C), the search continues.

    BobKat
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    Is this the one ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Lancaster-Manual-Publication-1942-1945/dp/1853675687/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1390904095&sr=8-2&keywords=the+lancaster+manual

    Yes, that’s it. It contains the Pilot’s and Flight Engineer’s Notes with plenty of illustrations.

    BobKat
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    Hennie, you can buy “The Lancaster Manual” on Amazon and no doubt elsewhere – this gives you AP 2062A. The new ones look a bit expensive, but used copies are available and may be perfectly acceptable.

    We have both obviously caught the same bug – I have been suffering for over two years now!

    BobKat
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    Hennie, I have just been scouring AP 2062A (do you have a copy?) for parts of ED908. Your piece has the same general shape as one of the flying control links, but I can’t spot one with the offset you mention – and not being an expert, I don’t know whether size would match. Maybe somebody could confirm or put me right?

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #995898
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    Great spot for No.47, Peter, thank you. It is becoming increasingly clear that pieces of the undercarriage are scattered at some distance from location 12 where Laurent had been digging. When Laurent has his scanner back in action we will be able to get a clearer idea of where all the latest discoveries are positioned.

    Yes, I see what you mean about 49C. WV-903 thought about electrical use. If this piece is also from the undercarriage well, maybe a closer look in this area would be worthwhile?

    Also, if you have a look at the picture for 47 (post #452) you will see another item in the centre of the picture which has the same sort of material as in 49C and with a keyhole shaped aperture attached to a piece of fuselage. Maybe another clue? See picture attached.

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    A further thought – could our spindle be from the locking gear (No.47)? It is a little difficult to make it out on your picture, but it could be a possibility?

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #996550
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    Laurent tells me that the piece is bakelite, which I guess, if he does not know of Tufnol, may be a reasonable description? He also says there is a bit missing, and “rien ne coulisse dedans!” which Google translate says means “nothing slides in!”, but I may have lost something in the translation.

    He has also found another piece R3 34A AGS 904 H, which Air Ministry’s list (post #301) tells me is an aluminium alloy 1″ BSP sleeve. No need for another picture!

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #996673
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    Glad to be of help, Peter. And thanks for brightening up the picture. I have just changed my computer and my old photo-editing software no longer works on Windows 8. I am at present getting used to the ‘Paint’ software – maybe there is a facility buried in there somewhere!

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #996678
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    WV-903, Peter, I will ask Laurent what the last item, 49C, is made from – it certainly doesn’t have a steel-like appearance.

    I am still not convinced about the spindle – I have found a more detailed diagram of the knuckle joint of the retracting undercarriage strut, and it doesn’t look quite right.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #996823
    BobKat
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    Peter, I think probably not – Laurent has a question mark and I cannot make anything out on the photographs.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #996856
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    Laurent tells me that there was no military activity in the Foret du Croc in World War I and he thinks the grenade launcher may have been left over from the time of the fall of France in June 1940.

    I now have some more photos of one of the items in 49C – the piece numbered 15V 2068 – with measurements and different angles. The inner surface almost has a fabric-like appearance, but it may be more readily identifiable by its shape. It would be good to solve this one if we can, but unless someone has a sudden inspiration, it looks as if we will have to give up on the others. Shame about item 48, but it will just have to remain a mystery.

    in reply to: Wreckage Of Lancaster ED908 (60-Z) #997615
    BobKat
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    Peter, certainly the illustration in the manual looks hopeful, but the grease fitting was simply found close by – it may not be directly connected with the other piece.

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