RAF’s current contribution to JHC
Chinook HC2/HC2A/HC3A (being upgraded)
Puma HC1
Merlin HC3/HC3A
Then the future
Chinooks as above (includes further new build CH-47Fs)
NH-90 HC1 (fleet possibly transferred to the AAC)
Merlin
Other helicopters (SAR)
now:
Sea King HAR3/HAR3A
Griffin HAR2 (for training)
In the future
SAR no longer RAF or RN coming under PFI
civilian consortium operates a mix of AW101 and AW139s on behalf of the MoD, but crewed by civilian and serving RAF/RN personnel. Griffins still used for SAR training though.
But by about 2016, support will comprise 14 leased A330-200s aircraft (transport and AAR), 6 C-17 Globemaster IIIs, 25 A400Ms and 24 Hercules C4/C5 all operating from Brize Norton. While ISTAR will be 7 Sentry AEW1, 5 Sentinel R1s, whatever will replace or whether the Nimrod R1 will be used again, 12 or more MQ-9 Reaper Bs all based at Waddington. That will be the RAF’s future structure.
I’d go for the MiG-35, although I wouldn’t discount the Typhoon. What with HAL currently in talks with BAE Systems about shifting Hawk production to India as well as the possibility of further Hawk orders, I can quite imagine BAE Systems being quite busy at the moment pushing the Typhoon to India as well as the moment. Maybe though 126-200 fighters might be too ambitious and could end up in a mix of selected aircraft.
Add this link as well:
Financial Times: Navy’s new carriers to deploy old aircraft
Anyone know details about the reported MoD statement (Friday) that the Lightning 2 won’t be in UK service until 2018 and even then on 36 number may be purchased? Sounds like a tabloid scare story to me!
The Harrier has an OSD of 2018, by which time the full Lightning fleet would be operational rather than being delivered. The UK has a requirement for about 138 to 150 Lightnings, although it is expected the number will be smaller and certainly not the 36 that was reported. Does sound like a tabloid scare story.
Another one of those “look at our wonderful fighter”-type TV news pieces. There’s probably half a dozen of those around for every fighter around. It did strike me though that the manufacturing facilities for the Sukhoi look pretty run down, especially if you compare it to the modern and clean facilities that Western nations possess. Reminds me of British Leyland in the 1970s!
It was officially confirmed yesterday and includes Almondbank as already noted. The sell-off was in the pipeline for a while as the MoD scales back its maintenance activities. DARA and ABRO are also due to merge in April.
SOC might be out of luck there. They generally employ anybody other than people who know anything about defence (give or take a few exceptions including the former AFM ed).
Why Dave? As in… my mate Dave? I would have thought an American name would have been more apt. Say the Hillary. As in Hillary Clinton.
The MoD and the RAF still call it the “JCA” on official websites and literature and you often see news reports still calling it JSF, but it was officially named the “F-35 Lightning II” in 2006 by the US “in co-ordination with partner nations”. On that basis, it would be called Lighting II when in RAF/FAA service. Question should be will it be called just the “F-35B Lightning II” or the “Lightning II GR1/FGR1”.
The system might be sensitive, but a short-term leased system where the aircraft could eventually be bought wouldn’t be a massive problem. Any use of Helix, whether that was on the Nimrod R1, would have involved third parties anyway beyond just the RAF. The days when a manufacturer would just supply the aircraft and then the RAF would go off and operate the thing are long gone. QinetiQ, BAE Systems, L-3 Communications, etc all have a big role, providing and fitting the systems, being involved in testing and eventually supporting the aircraft once in service. It’s probably not the ideal option, but it would be cheaper.
And yes, there would be punative payments for scrapping tranche 3, but the payments would be insignificant compared to the actual cost of buying the aircraft.
What about a leased option? Surely something could be sorted out with Airbus or a similar company where the RAF would lease a number of planes fitted with Helix similar to the planned FSTA. Problem again with that though would be delivery schedule. I can’t imagine anything being available until early next decade. Seems that the need for new aircraft is mounting up. I even read on one forum that the MoD is planning to get rid of the Army’s Lynx pretty soon and replace them with entirely new helicopters or transfer Sea Kings over. I can see some major cuts on the horizon (starting with Typhoon tranche 3).
Jeez, that was an old thread – what was it doing there!
Turkey regularly produces studies of possible new equipment. You see it time and time again, these major wish lists from the Turkish military, but the ecomonic reality often reduces these to just studies. Other than the dispute with Greece, the main threat to Turkey is its own internal system coupled with the PKK and Islamic militancy. Maybe you might say that a nuclear-armed Iran would be a threat to Turkey, but its unlikely that they would act unilaterally in such a situation. You also cannot really envisage Turkey or Greece taking major leads in overseas operations that would require the use of aircraft carriers. Even the UK doesn’t really use its carriers in the same way that they were designed for anymore, until we get the CVFs.
As for Brazil and Thailand and India as well, the use of these is nothing more than expensive and unnecessary toys – a little bit of prestige. Thailand will be a particular case with their carrier being termed as an “offshore patrol helicopter carrier” despite its availability of Harriers. It was never intended for “power projection” of naval air power. As for the statement that any country possessing an aircraft carrier is a major naval power, well that obviously would come from an aviation-related magazine. Aircraft carriers might be useful to the US, given that its more likely to need that kind of strategic asset, maybe France and the UK as well (seeing themselves as major world powers… cough), but a good range of submarines and surface vessels (especially ones where you can deploy amphibious forces and helicopter support assets) are probably more useful for smaller nations these days. That said, either country would probably find an LHD useful and allow them a bigger role in any overseas ops with NATO or the like.
There has been talk over the past couple of years that the Czechs might buy/lease another 6-12 Gripens in the 2009-2011 time frame.
Anyone know what the current status of this opportunity is? Or is it dead?
They were originally looking to buy 24 Gripens, but the damage and cost from 2004 floods soon scuppered that plan. At one point, they were going to not buy or lease anything — there was even talk of Poland or another NATO state providing air defence cover for the Czech Republic, but eventually going for a ten-year lease of 14 Gripens from 2005. Sure that others will add to that.
New way of researching your work, ask other people on forums. Took me two seconds to look that up on the Internet…