And for the French among you, here is the original Marine Nationale story before it was translated via google into dodgy English.
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/base/breves/f3_innovations_en_rafale
Apologies Swerve if my writing comes out all over the place as it is late. I think Mantis’ first flight has been delayed because of the need for further ground testing before it is cleared to flight. I haven’t got the link to hand, but I think that was confirmed by Aviation Week in the last few days (I read it somewhere!).
Life is like a box of chocolates, especially if it includes a few “hidden” euro notes, tickets to go to a lap-dancing club in Place Pigalle, all the blueprints for a fighter jet that you are trying to sell and a generous offer of industrial offsets.
I’m not up with previous bribery allegations involving Serge Dassault, but is this the same guy who has just been stripped of office as Mayor of Corbeil-Essonnes for allegedly trying to bribe voters?
Perhaps you should sign the anti-Typhoon petition then or, alternatively, start your own petition entitled, “UK end all of its defence programmes, foreign companies withdraw your businesses and BAE Systems and Rolls-Royce move your headquarters to the US”. Then if you were able to muster up enough signatures, you’d make sure there would be no aerospace/defence engineering and manufacturing skills left in the United Kingdom.
I hope it is poor translation. The “Anglo-Swedish consortium BAE” and the “European Eurofighter consortium EADS”, “British Aerospace”. Surprising that “British Aircraft Corporation” wasn’t in there as well.
Not that it might have any relevance but I believe that TSR.ch is a French-speaking Swiss broadcast company. Many of its programmes are also broadcast on TV5Monde, the France-based international broadcast company. Temps Présent is among those programmes shown on TV5Monde, whose chairman happens to be a former French government minister and a staunch supporter of France’s ruling party. Not that I’m into conspiracy theories [about media programmes aimed at French-speaking audiences that broadcast worldwide and in Switzerland trying to discredit opposition fighter planes in a major Swiss defence tender] or anything like that.
Is it? The SUAV(E) IPT was still in existence as of the end of last year. There’s even a brief reference of SUAV(E) (in regards to Deep & Persistent Offensive Capability) in the House of Commons Defence Committe defence equipment report published just over a week ago.
Is it? The SUAV(E) IPT was still in existence as of the end of last year. There’s even a brief reference of SUAV(E) (in regards to Deep & Persistent Offensive Capability) in the House of Commons Defence Committe defence equipment report published just over a week ago.
Where do you deduce fixed undercart from?
“If” the mock up has fixed undercart, that’s because it’s a mock up, made of plywood and kleenex.Prototype 1 “may” have a fixed undercarriage, maybe because they had problems with it and there’s enough stuff to fix without worrying about retraction.
There is no way the actual platform will have a fixed undercart. If it has, then BAe are bladdy fools. Fixed U/c is Ok on that little 4 foot Watchkeeper, it only goes round the corner to have a peep. Mantis will have to go some distance and some height, that’s no good with it’s legs dangling in the breeze.
I’m deducing it from what the original mock-up on show at Farnborough last year looked like to the one at Aero India.
http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=24125
http://www.defensenews.com/pgf/stories70/071408dn_Mantisw.JPG
The Aero India one has a lot of design changes that, and judging by the first model undergoing construction as shown in the Flight Global article, looks nearer to the final configuration. The undercarriage for one is different as is the three-bladed prop, the bulge on the top of the tail fin (as pictured in illustrations), the appendages on the nose. Yes it might be a mock-up made out of plywood and so forth, but you’d want to show people what it will look like rather than being slightly representative again – if they wanted to do that they might as well have displayed the previous mock-up. But that is the whole point, the Mantis is a technology/concept demonstrator, initially testing things like the sensor packages. Weapon systems testing was not funded when Mantis was announced last year, so having to have every part of the design exactly right for operational use is not that important. I guess we will know in the next month or two.
If this indeed represents the final design, and its only guessing, perhaps the retractable undercarriage has been scrapped as a cost-saving measure. A production version might differ (assuming that it goes that far). Apparantely, there is talk of a second model being constructed now and several countries (including India) are interested in it as well as the technology. Reason it and Herti were on display at Aero India.
As for the three appendages, pilot cameras for flight view, take-off and landings? Reaper/Predator has a single camera in the nose. No idea why three would be needed. The MX-20 turret wouldn’t be used for flight purposes.
Looks like quite a few changes in design to the Farnborough mock-up. Lump on the top of the tail fin as seen in artist’s impressions. Fixed landing gear is entirely new.
While obviously there are some serious problems at the mo, I wouldn’t bother looking for that link. EADS poo pooed such suggestions over cancellation only a few days ago. Also, the C-130 test bed made it’s second flight from Cambridge yesterday so at least the engine looks like it is going somewhere now.
And Germany should be buying either the MQ-9 Reaper (unarmed) or Heron TP shortly in addition to something for your K130 corvettes. Then there’s also EuroHawk being developed at the mo.