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  • in reply to: Why do the Russkies paint the deck of their ships orange? #2008005
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    J

    ‘Gremyashchy (also some years back)’

    was this the Battle of the Atlantic bash at Liverpool – we might have tripped up over each other!
    (I was surprised to see so much concrete in the base of the gun turrets.)

    One of the Nimrod crews there was being shown around by a Russian sailor who spoke good (if americanised) English. All was going well until they came to the aft gun turret; the Russian said “Here we have the twin 120mm cannons.” One little balding airforce type spoke up, “Actually they’re 130 mm guns.” The Russians face froze and there was a moments silence before he said “Tour over!” and walked off.

    I think I must have been speaking to the ‘Political Officer’ on the Kresta all those years ago.

    Nice red decks though…

    in reply to: Why do the Russkies paint the deck of their ships orange? #2008022
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    Blood Red Decks

    A Soviet Navy sailor told me (yes it was many years ago) that the decks were painted red to honour the blood spilled by the Russian Navy over the years.

    He was particularly proud of the fact that the Russian Cruiser Aurora fired the shot signalling the start of the Russian Revolution on 25th October 1917 (it was a blank).

    Before the money ran out the decks were well painted and it did not appear to be a cheap ‘just the base coat of red lead paint’ idea.

    Since the end of the Soviet Union this naval tradition appears to be still in evidence on major ships.

    Auxiliary ships and ‘minor combatants’ of course have been seen with green decks.

    in reply to: Why do the Russkies paint the deck of their ships orange? #2008350
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    Blood red decks

    Dude,
    If y’all have to ask that question, it’s almost certain that y’all would not understand the answer.

    Rockall
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    daveglehill

    No I never flew the Phantom in the ground attack role Rockall so I concentrated on the air defence role which is my area of expertise.

    Thank you clearing this up, I was at Coningsby 72′ to 75 and there are lots of tales to tell from this time! I look forward to your book, my first squadron was a Phantom one and it remains a very special jet. I hope your book is a success, thanks.

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    Only Air Defence?

    Does the book cover the RAF Phantom’s early years when we used it for Ground Attack and Reconnaissance, or does it just cover the Fighter years?

    in reply to: 71yrs on.. #942315
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    One of the saddest thing about this is that the US have been at war ever since…

    in reply to: Frankenplane Prototypes #2277283
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    Sunderland MRA Mk 6

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/picture.php?albumid=355&pictureid=2497

    New engines, recycled Searchwater & MAD a few old Mighty Hunter spares and off you go …

    in reply to: Future Warfare? #2277714
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    dj

    …and america has shown willingness to have their proxies (israel) launch hundreds of US-built weapons into Palestinian towns to terrorize the inhabitants. It is not inconceivable that america would gift a nuke to israel for terror reasons.

    It is also not inconceivable that Palestinians would answer with a volley Iranian-built artillery rockets into israel if they perceived a threat.

    (see what happens there?)

    See the argument from both sides and then see it rationally

    Oh no! Is this the future of warfare – major states supplying weapons to more volatile ‘puppets’ to enforce mutual foreign policy?

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    well said Moggy

    in reply to: Future Warfare? #2277779
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    If nukes are no longer a deterrent then why are some people getting all hot and bothered about Iran (maybe) building them? I expect even the Israelis might see any future Iranian nukes as a bit of a deterrent.

    If however defensive weapons were more effective the ‘Bad Actors’ could behave any way they wanted to but they simply wouldn’t get anywhere.

    Maybe it’s more fundamental than that, maybe we can never be at peace as long as we remain one interdependent species but still tied into the idea of individual run for profit ‘Nation States’.

    in reply to: Future Warfare? #2277781
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    CHAMP can leave the little EMI/EMC UAV things flying around in circles all day long, but if it destroys their command facilities it has done the job surely?

    in reply to: Future Warfare? #2277825
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    Future Warfare

    Just a thought but … what if Future Warfare was purely defensive globally rather than offensive?

    If we had robust Defence Forces would we then be justified in abandoning the (assumed) role of World Police on behalf of the UN?

    Do we get involved in ‘policing actions’ to do any real good or just for political kudos, either with the home electorate or our perceived bigger ‘allies’?

    Maybe the world is now too ‘global’ in a trade sense for this to work.

    in reply to: Future Warfare? #2277832
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    deception

    What djcross just said,
    you don’t need to hide you simply need to deceive or confuse or obscurate or have multiple ‘apparent’ targets. There are also lots of ways of making targeting difficult even after ‘detection’ has taken place. Just because your ‘army in the desert’ is surrounded by miles of sod all doesn’t automatically make it easy to find.

    in reply to: Future Warfare? #2277843
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    New from Boeing

    I’ve just read a Boeing press release for CHAMP.

    Boeing and the U.S. Air Force have successfully tested the Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP) during a flight over the Utah Test and Training Range.

    CHAMP uses a high-powered counter electronics microwave pulse from a missile to cut power to, say a room full of computers.

    This looks like a pretty good way of getting rid of all those annoying UAV things.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2008589
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    I agree that the Oberon’s appear to have been so successful for so long that they proved difficult to replace.

    The Canadian Victoria’s were bought cheaply to operate off each coast, but have proved costly (if not impossible) to reactivate and run as planned. If I was a Canadian politician I would take a lot of convincing to buy absolutely anything from a British shipyard after their experience with the Upholder’s. What did the Canadian ‘short list’ for subs look like back then anyway, did they have a budget?

    Having said all this I still believe that if we had kept the Upholder in RN service they would have proved themselves to be first class boats. Further, if we had been seen to operate them successfully more orders may have been forthcoming. Would Canada have been able to afford new boats from a production run to their own specification? Probably, would they have been cheaper to buy new than the current situation? Almost certainly, does any of this matter now anyway?

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