Agree absolutley!!–Well done for saying.
Andy
Hear, hear. It’s cases like this that make me wonder why we don’t have the death penalty brought back. There’s too many so-called celebrities (“don’t you know who I am?”) who seem to think the law applies to everyone else, but that they are above such trivialities. 😡 😡 😡
Certainley is one of the best in the UK… 🙂
Such a shame Alpha Alpha was reduced to a hacked up airfix kit though, gonna need a big supply of welding rods and grinding discs to put it together again…. 😉 😀
They have apparently started the process of re-attaching the wings, according to the local press. I’ve not been down to East Fortune for a few weeks, so I don’t know how it’s going. Could be interesting. :rolleyes:
John,
Thanks for your post. It looks as though I read more into your comments than was intended, so no harm done. There are some who would have meant that the Concordes should have stayed in the south!
I agree that the timing wasn’t ideal, but that’s just something the museum has had to deal with. I suspect there would have been no alternative – it’s unlikely anyone would have had room for them at short notice and, if they did, would probably have charged ‘storage’ fees, thereby making the overall cost for places like East Fortune even higher.
I fully agree about the Beaufighter (which has always been my favourite type anyway). It’s disgraceful to have spent £190,000 acquiring it and then leave it to rot in a water-logged hangar (no word of a lie – rain has been coming in through the roof and floor for weeks, but that’s another story) without any restoration work being carried out. The APSS volunteers who have always maintained the aircraft aren’t allowed to touch them any more, so not only are a/c like the Beau not being worked on, but most of the others are actively deteriorating.
Despite all this it is a superb collection – it could just be so much more if the curatorial staff had the will and knowledge … 😡
Sorry, that should be “my comment”, not “MY comment.” I wasn’t inferring anything! :rolleyes:
Not surprising when you consider Hendon is the RAF Museum…….. 😉 :rolleyes:
Well, exactly! MY comment wasn’t meant as a criticism of Hendon which “does exactly what it says on the tin.” However, as the Museum of Flight, East Fortune has a godo mix of both military and civil, which is why I take exception to the suggestion that it’s not one of the main collections – it’s one of the best in the UK and it’s one of a very few north of the border.
John,
I agree with most of what you say – the money being spent to transport and restore Concorde, at the expense of more historically important aircraft which are being left to rot depresses me. However, this money only came from the Scottish Executive specifically for the Concorde and the Museum of Flight would not have had it to spend for other projects. There is also the fact that Concorde is a huge public draw, despite what we might think of it. It will, and already is, bringing punters in in their thousands, which is good!
What I do take great exception to is your comment, “in main collections in the UK.” Just what exactly do you mean by this? I assume you’re referring to Duxford, Hendon and other such places in SE England? East Fortune may not be huge, but it has one of the most impotrant collections in the UK, including the oldest aircraft in the UK (3rd oldest in the world). The museum has a superb balance between military and civil aircraft (which is more than can be said for Hendon). It has several airframes which are entirely unique so whilst I accept most of your points I am deeply offended by your suggestion that aircraft should stay down in the south of England where you all can enjoy them. What about people in the rest of the UK, who often have to travel dozens, if not hundreds of miles, just to get to a small aviation museum.
Just in case anyone misses the other thread, a big thank you to everyone who voted for Bawdsey. Even though it didn’t win, it was a great achievement to reach the final 8 and hopefully funding will be secured from other sources, allowing restoration to take place anyway.
As Melvyn says, the National War Museum in Valetta is very interesting, with Faith on display there (minus wings, of course). You can’t go to Malta without visiting the Malta Air Museum at Ta Qali which is a superb wee museum.
Another, slightly more off-beat, place to visit is the 200 foot long sound mirror at Maghtab. It’s in very good condition and still has visible traces of camouflage paint. A fascinating survival and here’s what it looks like:
I also meant to say, a big thank you to everyone who voted for Bawdsey, both in the Midlands heat and in the final. Your efforts are much appreciated and have at least raised the profile of the place. Hopefully, the Transmitter Block will yet be restored.
Allan,
Thanks very much for your kind comments which are much appreciated. What I have found very interesting about the programme has been the level of interest in Bawdsey. Publishers I’ve approached in the past have told me that radar is a fringe interest and although I knew this wasn’t the case, it’s nice to have something like this prove just how much interest there is in preserving and recording our heritage.
Although I would of course have liked to see Bawdsey win, I’m not too disappointed. Judging by the runners-up from last year’s programme, it’s likely Bawdsey will be able to get funding from somewhere. Most of last year’s buildings have received lottery funding, so I’m hoping this will be the case and that the T Block can still be restored and turned into a museum/visitor centre.
I don’t even grudge the King’s Norton buildings winning – they are two very beautiful medieval buildings and should be preserved and parish councils don’t have the sort of money to do that kind of work. I’m trying hard not to be a sore loser!
I have several photos of Mk IIF Beaus at No 54 OTU in Scotland, none of which are carrying squadron codes of any kind – even though the OTU used four different sets of codes. Just because the aircraft doesn’t have codes doesn’t necessarily mean that it is a non-operational machine. Perhaps the photo was taken the day the a/c arrived and had not yet been painted up? I think possibilities like these can’t be ruled out – just because it has no codes in the photo, doesn’t mean the a/c never wore codes, but simply that it didn’t have them at that particular instant.
I quick check on the BBC website has revealed that Bawdsey was indeed the highest-scoring runner up and is therefore through to the final of Restoration. I strongly urge everyone to support this project to save a vital peice of Britain’s aviation history and, as Moggy has already pointed out, an essential element to the victory in the Battle of Britain. Few tangible reminders of the BoB have survived – please do your bit to ensure that Bawdsey Trasnmitter Block isn’t lost as well.
The phone number to call to vote for Bawdsey is 09011 322208. Calls cost 50 pence, which is a very small sum, so please vote as many times as you can.
Vote for both, then! This would help put them in the running against each other and eliminate the opposition. However, Bawdsey has to come in as the runner up, so all this may be academic …
I’d be very grateful for a copy of this list, if possible. If you have an electronic copy, please PM me with it; if a paper copy, let me know and I’ll PM you with my address. Either way, thanks for making this list available, which could be very useful for my research.
Great pics. Unless my eyes deceive me, the second one is of a Mark II, which was fitted with Merlin XX engines.