If you do decide to visit East Fortune, you would probably be best to hire a car. Getting there by public transport isn’t especially easy, particularly if you are travelling all the way from Prestwick. By the time you get a train to Glasgow, train to Edinburgh, train (or bus) to North Berwick and then a bus to East Fortune, the day would be just about over!
To be honest, I very much doubt it. Almost without exception, the aircraft participating in the Festival of Flight do not operate from East Fortune itself but a variety of airfields in the area, including I believe Edinburgh Airport. There is therefore not much to see at East Fortune before the start of the airshow, although they are having an outdoor screenign of Casablanca on the Friday evening.
I’ve never been to East Fortune the day before the airshow, so I can’t guarantee that my understanding of the above is 100% accurate, but certainly it’s not like Leuchars airshow in that aircraft arrive at the airfield prior to the airshow day.
Yes another good event, combined with a BBMF Flypast and aerojumble. Would be nice if we could have 2 of these events each year, maybe one held down South somewhere? It may attract different exhibits in addition to making it more accessable to other enthusiast.
It IS down south! Try being an aviation enthusiast in Scotland with only two decent airshows a year, or alternatively a huge trek to Duxford or further afield. Contrary to popular belief, Lincolnshire is in the southern part of England – just look at an atlas and mesaure the distance from Berwick to Brighton. 😉
I think NMS paid the salaries of the restoration team, but all other costs were funded by Glasgow. I may be wrong in this – I wasn’t in on all the details – but I think the money was split something like along these lines.
I’m prepared to be corrected as to the ownership, but my understanding (from talking to the restoration team leader a couple of years ago) was that it was not owned by Kelvingrove, nor East Fortune, but was a NMoS airframe. Sorry Ian, while your facts are streight, that’s not a closed case! Based at a, restored by b (who does not own it) doesn’t mean c doesn’t own it either.
Doldrums – can you ask the MoF?
Cheers
Just to help you sort things out, the National Museums of Scotland (abbreviated as NMS, never NMoS) is a group of several museums which are Scottish Executive funded. These are: the Museum of Scotland, the Royal Museum, the National War Museum of Scotland, the Museum of Scottish Country Life, the Museum of Costume and the Museum of Flight. Since the latter is the museum at East Fortune, it couldn’t be possible to be NMS but not East Fortune, since the aviation collections ARE East Fortune. The reason I know all this is because I work for NMS! Although I don’t work at the Museum of Flight, I do know how the organisation is organised.
One other interesting piece. Professionals were hired for the LA198 restoration, because big funding was provided as has already been mentioned. However, this caused discontent at East Fortune since the Aviation Preservation Society of Scotland, who do all the restoration work at the MoF, weren’t allowed to touch LA198. They still do a huge amount of work for the MoF and still don’t get the appreciation by the organisation for all they do. But I’m sure you can appreciate how they felt being told they weren’t allowed to be involved in working on a Spit! 😮
The best place to go to get the various abbreviations and notations on service records deciphered is the excellent forum at http://www.rafcommands.com
This is the info I have…
1997 – Gifted to the City of Glasgow by the then Minister of Defence Michael Portillo
04/03/1998 – Delivered to the Museum of Flight, East Fortune, Lothian for static restoration, funded by the Scottish Office
I can confirm that LA198 definitely does NOT belong to the National Museums of Scotland. The aircraft was restored at the Museum of Flight but does not belong to the collections at East Fortune.
Kelvingrove is run by Glasgow City and its funded by them, not by the Scottish Executive who fund NMS.
Snapper,
I just want to echo what has been said already, and mention that these are some absolutely cracking photos. This doesn’t surprise me of course – that Turbinlight photo you sent me is still one of my favourites – but I’m grateful to you for taking the time and effort to post such a fascinating selection of 609 Sqn images. With everything from refuelling, to maintenance, to crashes, there’s certainly something for everyone, even the Spitfire fanatics. 😉
That would be LA198, which was restored at the Museum of Flight. I understand it’s currently on display in the Museum of Transport in Glasgow, awaiting the completion of work at the Kelvingrove, at which time it will be moved there for display.
The London Gazette website (http://www.london-gazette.co.uk) reveals the following information:
Supplement to LG issue 36248, dated 16 November 1943
Warrant Officer Sidney Douglas Good (655822) was commissioned as a Pilot Officer on probation (emergency) (158299) with effect from 30 August 1943.
Supplement to LG issue 37001, dated 27 March 1945
DFC awarded to Sidney Douglas Good (158299), RAFVR, 44 Sqn.
No citation is given
I know this isn’t a lot of detail, but at least this gives you one squadron that he served with. The only other suggestion I can make is that I assume you are researching this on behalf of Mr. Good’s family. Would it be possible to get them to apply for his service records from the RAF, and get him to sign the application form? This would open up a lot more information that can then be followed up.
Post #4 above mentions the first flight as being from the aerodrome at Desford, Leics., which I guess was the R&S flying base. That post from Charlielima5 also mentions the book that probably contains the definitive answer.
My apologies – I should re-read posts before adding to a thread. :rolleyes: Clearly, I have the attention span of a hamster. At least I was right with my deduction of Leicestershire.
Since the website mentions that it was used by the manufacturers for communications duty, and a search on Google indicates that the company, which also made camera equipment, was based in Leicester, I assume the photo was probably taken at Reid & Sigrist’s aerodrome near there, perhaps Braunstone?
The best way to get an answer would be to contact the webmaster, Jaap Teeuwen, who may well be able to give you an answer.
Only just got round to checking out this thread. The following website has a small piece on the RS1, including this photo showing it in wartime.
TV and Radio comedy star Tony Hancock was in the RAF from 1942 onwards, and he also served in a Ralph Reader Gang Show.
As an AC2, Airman Generel Duties, amongst other things he was cleaning the toilets at a radar station in SW Scotland! I have a copy of a unit Christmas menu with Tony Hancock’s signature on it. That was in 1943 and on his, I think, second attempt he was accepted for Ralph Reader’s Gang Show and the rest is history.
A go-cart, that were luxury! When I were young I used to sleep in a shoe-box and get up ten hours before I went to bed …
I’ll stop before I start paraphrasing Monty Python too much 😀