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  • in reply to: Worst Book ever! #2104596
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    I’d have to go with A Race on the Edge of Time by David Fisher. This is an American book about British radar development and is truly the worst book I’ve ever come across – so bad, it’s not even worth buying to see how bad it is. To give an example, he mentions that Dowding was a spiritualist. Many of the upper classes were, in the early 20th century, including Churchill, Arthur Conan Doyle and others. However, Fisher claims that because Dowding believed in an afterlife that he was certifiably insane and, had the Air Ministry known of this, he would have been sacked from his job and we would have lost the Battle of Britain.

    Whilst I don’t belive in spiritualism, I wouldn’t knock someone else’s beliefs. However, believing in spirits certainly doesn’t make someone insane!

    I really hate books that take half an idea and run with it when there’s nothing there in the first place. Fisher’s book is riddled with factual errors, but this claim takes the biscuit.

    in reply to: Use of East Fortune Airfield still under threat #2105402
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    What I find amazing is that one of the main bodies opposed to the gas development (other than the National Museums of Scotland) is East Lothian Council Tourist Board, yet East Lothian Council Planning Department are the ones who will make the decision on whether to grant planning permission to Transco. A healthy dose of irony anyone?

    in reply to: What was the first Spitfire to crash in Scotland. #2105498
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    The first Spitfire crash in Scotland appears to be:

    Spitfire Mk I K9965
    No 602 Squadron
    8 September 1939
    Sergeant John Martin Cullen Bryden, RAuxAF, 802600

    Sergeant Bryden took off at 10.10 pm on his first night flight. He was seen taking off into the darkness, banking at about 500 feet and then the Spitfire came down the sky at full throttle, creating a fireball visible for miles around. He was, apparently, the first Fighter Command pilot ‘killed on active service’.

    Spitfire: The History merely mentions that K9965 crashed near Glasgow on a training flight. Perhaps others here can provide a more specific location.

    in reply to: What was the first Spitfire to crash in Scotland. #2105504
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    Originally posted by dhfan
    Not that it helps with the first Spitfire, but there’s a niggling memory at the back of my mind that the first German aircraft to be lost over Scotland was shot down by a Blackburn Skua or Roc.

    The first German aircraft to be shot down over Scotland during WW2 were two Ju 88s of KG30 shot down by Spitfires of Nos 602 and 603 Squadrons, based at Drem and Turnhouse respectively. The action took place on 16 October 1939 and is quite well documented. There is even a book dedicated to this combat, Birth of the Few, by Henry Buckton which is worth reading.

    dhfan, I suspect that the aircraft you are referring to is a Do 18D which was forced down on 26 September 1939 by a Skua from no 803 Squadron from HMS Ark Royal. This, however, did not concern Scotland, the action taking place just north of the Great Fisher Bank in the North Sea. The Do 18 was sunk by gunfire.

    in reply to: Can anyone recommend a book on photo-recce operations/pilots? #2105811
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    Daz,

    I have a copy of Eyes of the RAF, if you want to borrow it sometime. I also have Evidence in Camera by Constance Babington-Smith about photo-interpretation whcih may be of interest. A third book I have is a general large-format history whcih provides some useful background details, Allied Photo REconnaissance in World War II.

    Let me know if you’d like to have a look at any of these books.

    in reply to: What was the first Spitfire to crash in Scotland. #2106022
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    Another thought about the first Spitfire crash. Although not a write-off, a possible candidate could well be the a/c which Sandy Johnstone crashed whilst landing at Drem, when No 602 Squadron transferred there. I’d need to check the date, but it must have been very early September 1939.

    It all depends on what is meant by ‘crash’!

    in reply to: What was the first Spitfire to crash in Scotland. #2106167
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    Thinking about it, I seem to recall that some chap tried to fly using wings made of chicken feathers and throwing himself off the walls of Stirling Castle. This was in the 17th century I think. I don’t remember his name, but I’ll try and check this and find out more. Anyway, the guy survived (miraculously) and claimed that it didn’t work because he had used chicken feathers, and chickens don’t fly! However, he didn’t try it again with different feathers! Point is, this could well be the earliest ‘aircraft’ crash in Scotland.

    in reply to: What was the first Spitfire to crash in Scotland. #2106174
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    I can’t guarantee what was the first aircraft to crash in Scotland during WW2, but I do know the first German aircraft to crash on Scotland was a Ju 88 which exploded and landed in pieces on Hoy on 17 October 1939. I don’t have a great deal of information on this incident and don’t know just how much of the aircraft actually landed on the ground (or whether anything still survives today). However, this certainly pre-dates the Heinkel 111 which was shot down on 28 October 1939 near Humbie in East Lothian as well as the Heinkel 111 which landed near Haddington on 9 February 1940. The latter was indeed AW177, and flew with 1426 (Enemy Aircraft) Flight until it was destroyed in a crash in 1942 or 1944 (I’d need to check my notes).

    in reply to: East Fortune Concorde secured. #2108906
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    Originally posted by RadarArchive
    I must say, though, it will be quite something to see a building with both the Concorde and the Comet inside. British civil jet aviation at both ends of the scale.

    From my previous post, you’ll notice that it is my understanding that the plans are to get not only the Concorde, but also the Comet and Vulcan under cover. It may well be that the museum is taking the opportunity of Concorde unlocking Scottish Executive cash in order to achieve this, which has always been a long-term aim anyway.

    in reply to: East Fortune Concorde secured. #2109247
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    Originally posted by DaveB
    Duxford has a free bus from Cambridge City Centre and railway station. Presumeably they get more visitors than most though….

    Interesting to know, but even Cambridge isn’t particularly easy to get to except by car. Not being on the East Coast main railway line, for a lot of people it involves getting the train to London and then another train back out again. Admittedly, for Londoners it’s easier, but the fact that you still have to get the train and then change to the bus will, I’m sure, put a lot of people off. But it’s probably more worthwhile putting up with the hassles to see regular flying taking place at Duxford.

    At the end of the day, most aviation museums are based on active or disused aerodromes and no aerodrome is in a city centre! so by definition, aviation museums are relatively difficult to get to for most people.

    in reply to: East Fortune Concorde secured. #2109322
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    Originally posted by Buddy Boy
    Didn’t realise they had tried before with public transport.

    I do feel that it does suffer from it’s location though in being able to attract visitors staying in Edinburgh. Anytime I’m on holiday I try and find an aviation museum (to my wife’s despair!). Wonder how many people do the same, but find it too far out of Edinburgh if you don’t have a car?

    Then again if no-one used the service I’m not sure what else could be done.

    I know this is a sweeping generalisation, but many, if not most, aviation museums tend not to be easily accessible by public transport. The most obvious exception is Hendon, but I assume that Duxford isn’t easy to get to except by car? I must admit I drive and have visited numerous different museums. One of the most out of the way has to be the Tank Museum which is hard to find even by car.

    Anyway, my point is that the Museum of Flight is by no means alone in being primarily a drive-to museum, but most people in the UK either have a car or access to one, so I wouldn’t have thought this was a major problem. The MoF gets 60,000 visitors a year, which isn’t bad for an out of Edinburgh museum, but it certainly has the potential to get a lot more visitors. The arrival of the Concorde should give it the publicity to attract a substantial increase from next summer onwards.

    in reply to: East Fortune Concorde secured. #2109449
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    Originally posted by Buddy Boy
    BBC News site yesterday were reporting an £8m redevelopment of the whole museum, with the Exec providing £2m. One MSP was however questioning the lack of public transport to East Fortune, which is probably one of it’s main problems in terms of attracting visitors.

    Similar details appear in today’s edition of
    The Scotsman, although I assume everything is still dependant on the NMS being able to purchase land adjacent to the existing site, since scheduling means they cannot build on the airfield.

    As regards lack of public transport, IIRC the museum organised a daily return bus service from Edinburgh in conjunction with East Lothian council, but this was eventually withdrawn because almost no-one used it. People calling for increased public transport are usually those who get to and from work in chauffeur-driven limousines! If there’s no demand for a public bus service to the museum, why spend money providing one. I don’t see such a service being provided unless it is heavily subsidised.

    in reply to: Best warbird #2109545
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    I think I’d have to go with my own personal bias and nominate the Blenheim as “best warbird,” if only for the dedication of the team to keep an example in the air, despite two major crashes. Having seen the Blenheim flying on a couple of occasions, it is a fine testament both to the team that have spent years of work keeping one airborne, and also to the many men who lost their lives flying Blenheims during the war.

    in reply to: WW-II tech questions #2109549
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    I didn’t think the FuG 202 was “the first operational night fighter radar,” but I wasn’t certain without checking.

    Andy: You’re quite right about AI Mk IV having two CRTs, one for azimuth and one for elevation. Why did I think there was only one? I must be going senile! :rolleyes:

    The Blenheim success of July 1940 was achieved using an AI Mk III set, but this was still experimental equipment and very limited in its ability. This is why the success of 22/23 July 1940 was, I think, the only ‘kill’ ever achieved with AI Mk III. That, of course, is why I mentioned AI Mk IV in my original post and referred to it as “the first British AI radar which saw large-scale operational use.” AFAIK, AI Mk III was the first airborne radar to see operational use, but I’d be interested to know if this is incorrect.

    in reply to: East Fortune Concorde secured. #2109553
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    Originally posted by David Burke
    Maybe the Scottish Executive could fund a hanger seeing as they can spend £400 million on their parliament building when it should have cost £40 !

    Perhaps! Certainly, when the National Museums of Scotland built the Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh, it opened on 30 November 1998 on time and on budget, so the NMS have a good record of cost-effective construction programmes. It may be that funding has already been arranged, and I hope these plans to come to fruition. I’d just like to see details of where the money is coming from before I can rest assured that a hangar will be built for Concorde. I must say, though, it will be quite something to see a building with both the Concorde and the Comet inside. British civil jet aviation at both ends of the scale.

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