So are you denying that problems ever happened? Even though it appears to have been handled, problems do happen on the engines and you cannot deny that it doesn’t. Whether or not it affects operational ability, which of course, the politicians would say otherwise because their jobs are on the line, is up to the reader to determine……….You ground planes even if you suspect problems because that is for safety reasons and you wish to subject planes to detailed examination.

So, the IAF is indeed high above the rest that you do not need grounding and cannibalization? Perhaps the ego factor is just higher.

There were/are teething problems but NONE of them have resulted in ANY grounding of the IAF Su-30K fleet (I sincerely cannot speak for other forces). I was on the flightline a few weeks after the first “nicks” report. It was a serious problem but nothing that affected the operational ability of the Su-30K fleet thanks to the very generous sparing factor. This was a problem specific to the K not the MKI (they had/have OEM support 24/7 till contracted date). The nicked engines were taken care of under contract terms.

There is no ego only facts. You want to mix your delusion with facts be my guest but please dont drag the IAF down to the level of other inept flanker forces and their mediocre training regimen.

Litening has been integrated with the MKI. Its a very matter of fact thing for the IAF. Which is funny coz they will talk about litening (when there are no pics of it) but they wont talk about them showing off the 8222 during Sindex04. “Err…yeah…but its not the MKI’s role to carry the 8222.” Go figure.
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Nationalism makes what Oracle’s forum what it is. You want intelligent discussion try **** (or so I ve been told…never been allowed to set foot in it, which I guess is a good thing).

So its Nationalism that forms the core of all discussion and drives the debate and discussions. Russians think they have really good mousetraps that are overshadowed by american spin doctoring, Chinese buy these mousetraps coz they gots tons of money and then attempt to make their own klones, Indian have a colonial chip on their shoulder so they buy from the Russians and anyone else who wants to sell and then tinker with it (and discuss the tinkering to death on BRF) and claim to make a better mousetrap thereby pissing off the Chinese who know they have already made a million copies of the better mousetrap already. And all this while the Packees think that american mousetraps are good but they only get Chinese mousetraps which are 10x better than Indian mousetraps, but there are no mice to catch since they are being trained for a jihad…so they spend their time on PDF commissioning Chinese to photochop pics where folks on BR split hair about building the better Indian mousetrap.

Then you have those token players: swedes, french, italians etc…they will sell you the best mousetrap….but you cant use it to catch mouse coz the mouse are oppressed. And other candle kisser who wonder what all this ballyhoo is about. Its better spent going off to Russian and other places taking pics of various angles of mousetraps.

Finally there is the Oracle…well we all know the Oracle. So all you kids who have just found AFM, dont worry…have some curry and in due course of time your will be adequately brain damaged by the Oracle to care about such things.
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Ummm….. IN Mig-29K=New Carrier=Newer Battle Group=Newer/Better Air Defence. So if them Mig-29’s are defending, them Su-30MKK riff raff will sure have their hands full with them newer long/medium range SAMs (we are talking about 5-10 years hence).

The current gen of IN aviators have no experience in STOBAR (they are working on it as you know). But they have LOTS and LOTS of experience in DACT thanks to No.6 and No.20/30 boys and not to mention TACDE. I can tell you that Sea Harriers routinely trounce the attacking Jags based on the specifics of ROE (specifics, you dont need to know). But with the MKI its a very different story (obviously). Since there is no IN spec Mig-29K it would be very difficult to speculate what happens. Too many hypotheticals: would the MKI simulate an engagement against -29K as a downgraded MKK/MKK2, what stand off weapons will the said riff raff deploy against an Indian CBG? Air launched Uran/Klub/Yahkont? With the impending airlaunch Brahmos all bets are pretty much off. (incidentally the IN reeeeeeaally likes the Brahmos, its very cost effective….but please do carry on splitting hairs about which is the best AShM out there).

In short your propaganda will be as good as my propagandhi as far as this topic is concerned in the present time.

Fraser-Volpe makes 2 kinds of stabilized bincoculars for the US Army. The M-25 is a 14 power traditional prism set for daylight use and Nighteyes is a similar setup with image intensifiers for nightime use. I cannot tell which model he is holding.

If he is holding Nighteyes, then the lense covers should remain closed to keep from damaging the intensifier tubes during daylight use. The covers have a pinhole in the center that provides an extremely clear image.

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Not really a stop gap measure , Prithivi has many unique characteristics like its Tailored Trajectory making ATBM task difficult , Its has the best warhead to weight ratio in its class and contrary to reports it is quite accurate………For Its Full range of 350 Km , Its accuracy is under 10 meteres 🙂 , The only disadvantage is its heavy logistics and its Liquid Fuel ( which again has its own advantage as it can be fired and stop once in flight………The Solid vairant last tested is speculated to have a Range of 600 Km for a decent warhead weight 😉

I would argue this the other way around. By standardizing on a ‘short’ agni and a ‘long’ Agni. The IA/BDL/GOI might be trying to minimize the logistic nightmare associated with the missile groups and missile production. Can the Agni-I do what Prithvi did? I would say yes, and it does it from ‘safer’ distances. The incremental cost of producing Agni-I (given that Agni-II is a strategic necessity) would be much lower than trying to make an Prithvi.

Besides I have seen a DRDO short clip that CLEARLY states that Prithvi has a CEP of 0.0001% of its range. And then they went on to say that CEP achieved has been 27 m (hence my madrassa mathematics tells me that the range would be 270 kms).

If Agni-I is a better or equally effective payload carrier then they should standardize on it. Prithvi has served its purpose, it has trained the core group of missiliers for the armed forces. If IN takes the Prithvi seriously (which I think it does) then they will ‘extract’ the best out of DRDO in trying to develop a viable system.
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Huh? Who says you need to come here to keep abreast of whats happening in the IN. You can read and systematically discuss whats happening in the IN on BRF (frankly you will have to seriously justify whats happening in PN to really keep our attention). You come here to be entertained not to be informed. Any forum that lets luminaries like the oracle have a free hand is not really worth reading. The only redeeming thing about AFM is that amongst all the jihadi noise you can still pick up a few good tid bits and some international perspective (read non madrassa) on some of the subcontinents events.

YOu really give AFM Forums more credit than is due. You want intelligent debate you need to go elsewhere.

-35UB is a KNAAPO product…it wont have an indian markings.
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