I dont think this news deserves a separate thread, since there is practically nothing new. Except for one teensy weensy thing: there are 4 sqd. ldrs involved in the dispatch. IIRC my discussion with Jagan correctly…you only such top heavy situation when you are building a transitioning core group. This goes back to what I had predicted to Mr. Fomin’s question about who has what (No.20 vs No.30) that Lohegaon seems to be having a composite sqd with lots of top heavy and lots of a/c and experience sharing.
…….. will india have done air to air combat practise with their own mirage 2000 with their big sukhois i would have thought so.
That what they do all day long in the Tactics and Air Combat Development Establishment. 🙂
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I think its too early to speculate what IAF will do or wont do. I am not sure if all $4.2 B has been paid out upfront, but if its been then there will be some madrassa mathematics involved in adjusting the value of the current and future upgrades (one good indicator of this will be how the future of the 18 Su-30Ks are handled). If Indians start making noise about their own AESA, then I am sure the Russians will be more than willing to work out a deal…as is usually the case. But all this also depends on how well the future version of the Bars integrate with IAF’s pet network centric concept with its upcoming Phalcons etc.
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NCW to monitor IAF sexual harassment
Democracies have ways of dealing with things like these. Besides its about time the services had its sexual harassment tribulations, its expected when you mix genders in any environment. This too shall pass.
Meeh if the IAF shows the UPK/UNU in a local airshow (10/2004) in India next to the SB023 (first batch of MKI-Mk.1) I guess its a given that KAB family is compatible with the MKI.
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Isn’t India stuck with the N-011M Bars radar? The Indian media says that the Su-30MKI contract is a deep license that includes manufacturing a fixed number of N-011M Bars radars and AL-31FP engines in India. So isn’t India stuck with the N-011M Bars radar and AL-31FP engine…… wouldn’t Russia charge India even more money in addition to what India is paying for the existing deep license?
Me thinks…All the deep license stuff is good for the next 5-7 years at best, after that the N-011M will be quite jaded (there is only so much you can upgrade your MC/DSP/RDP etc) and they WILL be working on ‘reworking’ the contract to accomodate whatever NIIP can come up with and what DRDO can bring to the table. Indian AESA (with some form of 64 bit Core Avoinic Computer) in the next 10 years is not so unthinkable given the work done by CABS/LRDE on the LCA MMR and AEW, so it by 2012 there will be much discussion about whats good for the ‘last few batches of the MKI’.
All this assumes that PAK-FA will still be a pipe dream in 2012…if that is in flight testing by then, then perhaps an ageing N011M on the last MKI will be acceptable in anticipation of the PAK-FA. But then what goes on the LCA goes on the MKI=what goes on the PAK-FA goes on the MKI too …who knows…but N011M is PAR is certainly not the end of the story.
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So this new APAR goes on the RAC Mig Light fighter? No T-50/MKI/MKK apps?
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The CLAW and the DFCS are both Indian the actuators that finally convert the CLAW software that is on the DFCS is not. Actuators are a part of the FCS, they are still flying Moog on all flying TD/PV. And you need to check with Nitin about the exact status of the actuators.
any of you know apprx how much has been spent on R&D over the years on the LCA program?
Goto BR and look for an article call “LCA and Economics”….you will get some comprehensive #’s.
Mirko….I think you ve taken one too many hits on your noggin. Nachi had a flameout and them ***** shot down Ahuja and then some. I know counting may be difficult but its always been one -27 flameout and a one -21 shot down with some impressive torture of downed pilots, there was no second -27 shot down.
Now if you like to believe that there was one based on your sources….be my guest. Its gonna be like this pic you posted in the PA thread. Looks impressive and yet does NOT explain the context of the pic….

You do know this pic was taken right?
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fully agree on that one, there has to be multi-racks, and definetely in this Americans sets the standards, I very much like the stuffs on F-15, I hope MKI and MiG-19K too have these………..
Not really the MKI Mk.3 is ‘highly payload optimized’….nuff said.
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dual rail pylons to launch pairs of AAMs are necessary. Its a total waste to dedicate
a whole pylon to a small missile R-73.F-15 has shown the way. 15E carries a unbelieveable amt of individual munitions and
even hangs two fuel tanks near the tail.
the MKI is a ‘program’ and its already achieved a ‘very high degree of payload optimization’ even with Mk.3. Dual adapters are passe’. :diablo: I donno say more coz I dont have an open source or Star49 to back up my ‘payload optimization’ theory/fact….so just samjha karo.
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I think Su-30 has a still long way to go in its evolvement process. Even with Six R-77’s 4- R-73’s and 12 Fab-250’s the Su-30MKI looks empty. I think only a load out of 4 brahmos will make it make it a bit loaded.
The only restrictions on the MKI (no so for K and donno about the MKK) is the max load per pylon. I really doubt that the MKI can actually carry 4 3T Brahmos, even the 3 Brahmos will be putting a lot of strain on the individual pylon. But please dont worry much about the six of this and 4 of that stuff….that dont hold true for the MKI……not anymore…………………..
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Star49:
Umm whats does your scintillating mad-maths tell you about 29,400 lb in terms for KgF? Please enlighten us with your brilliant calculations and prove that 29,400 lb < = 12,500 kg (the AL-31F and also FP max thrust).
Right now Harry is using some fishy Star49 logic to come up with 6% composites on the MKI :D, but given that he hasnt started talking about ‘twu BVR’ I am inclined to believe him and his sources a bit more than you.
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Look at what those lying south asian air forces have been upto. They have surreptitiously increased the max thrust of the AL-31FP!!!! How could they??? Its got those fancy canards and TVC…must be weighing a ton!!! Only the MKK can lift 38.8T …oh the temerity of these guys only a few months ago they were claiming 12,500 kg (http://wilddog26.tripod.com/airshow/113-1382_IMG.JPG). Oh and they are now claiming that can deploy an LDP from the MKI too. 😀 Whats next? No visa for BVR? :dev2:
Courtesy Jai:
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