What annoys me most over these expenses is that the average guy in the street is all self righteous about it and is up in arms, but how many of them can honestly say that if they had been in the same position they wouldn’t have acted the same way. It seem that Macaulay (I think), was right when he said that there was nothing more ridiculous than the British public in one of it’s rare fits of morality.

You might be right but please do not speak for all of us. Some of us are as principled as the Frank Fields and other MPs who have not abused the system. It is not self-righteousness but exasperation and anger.

The other point is that if people had done what our MPs have done, as employees of a private company, they would probably be out of a job by now. Which is, of course, where most of this shower should find themselves.

…we now go over to Saint ****** School to talk to the headmaster:

“Personally I’m relieved that ******** won’t be attending my school any more, if ‘attending’ is correct word to describe the serial- truancy and extremely disruptive behaviour of this violent, drunken, foul-mouthed, ignorant, ASBO-magnet, little ****!

When he was here he learned nothing except how to bully and extort money from children half his size. He would certainly have left here with no qualifications whatsoever and would simply have become another burden to the taxpayer…

…like the rest of his benefit-cheating family.

Frankly I think that the bull that gored him to death did us all a favour!

Right, I’m off now to update my CV.”

Brilliant! If I ever see this on the telly I will burn my newly acquired and treasured copy of Miles Aircraft – The Early Years!:D

That no child or adult killed accidentally or with intent is anything other than, kind, warm, generous, loving of their family, courageous, a model citizen and destined for greatness. :rolleyes:

It is a pity that threads ‘vanish’ so quickly on the General Discussion forum as I seem to remember quite a few of us being up-in-arms when there was that protest against British troops in Luton…

…weren’t those protesters exercising their right to free speech?

I think our concept of ‘free speech’ depends very much on our opinion of those exercising it. :diablo:

Yes they were and, however much we disagree with anyone’s point of view, we must all accept their right to express it. After all we are never forced to listen to anyone if we do not wish to – the “off switch” is always available to us.

Excellent news! The original ban ( by the ghastly Smith as I recall ) was untenable.

Some of us still stand for true free speech and perhaps it may return, one day.

Defence of the Realm the official history of MI5 a 1033 page giant:)

Is it living up to its reviews? I think it will be on my Christmas list.

In the last 10 years – nothing.