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  • in reply to: Mystery B-17 accident at Grafton Underwood #1047297
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    Was it really a B17?, again the guard could have been wrong. If it was a B17 hitting trees would not give the visual described so that leaves the mid-airs (which could also account for 11 dead AND survivors as 2 aircraft would be involved).

    You could be right in this, Scrooge. We had Polebrook, and Grafton Underwood with B-17s, and Harrington, which had B-24s. The only thing I recall is that my dad was pretty insistent that it was a B-17, and he worked at all three bases during those years. I’ll open another thread and tell you folks quite a fascinating story about what happened to us when my older brother and I went to work with him one day.

    in reply to: Mystery B-17 accident at Grafton Underwood #1047301
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    Was it really a B17?, again the guard could have been wrong. If it was a B17 hitting trees would not give the visual described so that leaves the mid-airs (which could also account for 11 dead AND survivors as 2 aircraft would be involved).

    Thanks, Scrooge.
    The ongoing rumours at the time were that the aircraft had experienced some sort of mechanical problem while gaining altitude in order to join up with its group en-route to a raid on Germany. There was zero talk about a collision. Apparently the fire caught on and the crew lost control and it crashed. Time-wise, it could have been just before dawn for all I know and the plane was part of a daylight bombing raid to which the Americans had committed. You know, I can still remember a pair of fur-lined flight boots standing in the field near to the guard. Shivers!!

    in reply to: Mystery B-17 accident at Grafton Underwood #1047305
    professoreugene
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    A B17 at night? I wonder if it could have been an RAF (100 group) one?

    Good question, Martin. Only thing is that the crew would have exceeded 10 or 11, since the 100 Group aircraft carried German-speaking operators for misleading enemy nightfighters and their ground-support buddies. The only sqdn I found using Forts was No 223 operating out of RAF Oulton from Aug. 1944 onwards. Oulton doesn’t appear to be geographically likely as a base for a stray Fort, since Kettering and G-U are dozens of miles west of Aylsham, Norfolk.
    Good thought, though. Eug.

    in reply to: Mystery B-17 accident at Grafton Underwood #1047351
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    Thanks so much for the fabulous video. I thought it was photos at first, but then someone walked across the screen. I did notice in addition that the damage to the props on the port wing is more consistent with a low-wing crash-landing rather than a straight down crash. The plane I saw as a kid was absolutely blown apart, just the engines laying around, everything else was demolished.

    USAF/USAAF AIRCRAFT ACCIDENTS & INCIDENT REPORTS FOR UNITED KINGDOM AUGUST 1944
    Grafton Underwood
    440801 B-17G 42-97072
    or
    440815 B-17G 44-8011
    or
    http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675034678_B-17-aircraft_propeller-of-devastated-plane_engine
    440424 B-17 42-37789

    …but not a mention of the number of the crew involved…

    Martin

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