chuck1981 – “Chip ‘n’ Pin” is the very shortened term for the method of payment used by many in the UK these days. Your debit/credit card has a small chip embedded in it. You insert the card into a small machine at the counter then enter your PIN number. It was introduced as a supposed way of cutting down on fraud.
Could be. It’s certainly an interesting looking building though.
EDIT – yep, you’re right Creaking Door – it’s a crease in the photo!
Wow – what an intriguing photo! Can’t really add anything as you seem to know the history, after a fashion, of the photograph. Long shot but I don’t suppose you could find out anything else?
It Certainly isn’t a C-Type, unless the hangar doors have been very heavily camouflaged! And why the rivets?! The door height is wrong and at the very top left of the shot is what looks like the slope of a roof. This makes it way too small. Only observations and am willing to be very corrected!
A good mystery. Try posting on the Airfield Information Exchange – might be worth a different perspective. The link is below.
Chris
Peter,
Many thanks for that – much appreciated.
Chris
Hi all,
Well, we seem to be doing pretty well considering the site has only been live for under a week so Peter, you’re right! I think has taken us a little by surprise!
Keep it coming everyone and we hope we can work alongside the Key Aviation Forums!
Hope to see some of you there – we know a few people have already signed up.
Clearly, as it’s very new, a few things might change but the general structure ought to stay the same.
For now, one thing I’s like to point out, it is NOT an urban exploration forum!
A very big thanks to the chaps at Key for letting us promote this!
Chris
I’ve just e-mailed a friend who lives in the area so I’m sure we’ll find out, one way or t’other!
Chris
A terrific memorial. Would love to see it but just a pity it’s so far out of the way!
It’s nice to see that someone cares.
Chris
BTW – REF, shouldn’t you be at work!?
Perhaps the crux of this thread is not so much what was displayed on 28DL but how some of those involved seemed to go about it. It’s been mentioned above that some of their behavior could be having a detrimental effect on those of us who go out and indeed ask – even a bit of simple door-knocking goes a really long way! We have met some wonderfully helpful people who either own or lease disused airfields and many are very interested. Others will point you in the right direction to ask. This is what seems to have been missing from some of the 28DL reports, with examples of strange times of day getting onto sites and thinking it clever to have been “busted”. There just seems to have a been, in certain circumstances, a disregard for the rights of entry to the properties involved.
I admit, there has been some very good information to come out of 28DL and it’s a pity that the forum, as such, could not have encouraged “genuine” research and recording, tying it in with the written historical record.
I know 1 Group and REF very well, as we regularly go out together but our main is to record – legally – what is left, as it is a part of our heritage which disappearing all too quickly.
Could bang on but won’t. Suffice to say that I’m split 50/50 about it ceasing trading, as it were.
Chris
Felt it quite well thank you very much! Put Radio 5 on for Up All Night and it was all over it. It’s quite unnerving to actually HEAR it. Ironically, the BGS web site had crashed! The USGS web site was useful (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008nyae.php#news), as is the European-Mediterranean Seismological Centre web site (http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=current&sub=detail&id=79520#). Scared the $h1t out of me! Didn’t do the cat much good either. Like many of the neighbours, lights were coming on and people looking out windows. Burglar alarms were going off all over the place and it certainly woke the birds up!
Chris
Edit – an aftershock was recorded by the BGS at about 04:00 AM according to their spokesman being interviewed on 5Live.
Felt it quite well thank you very much! Put Radio 5 on for Up All Night and it was all over it. It’s quite unnerving to actually HEAR it. Ironically, the BGS web site had crashed! The USGS web site was useful (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008nyae.php#news), as is the European-Mediterranean Seismological Centre web site (http://www.emsc-csem.org/index.php?page=current&sub=detail&id=79520#). Scared the $h1t out of me! Didn’t do the cat much good either. Like many of the neighbours, lights were coming on and people looking out windows. Burglar alarms were going off all over the place and it certainly woke the birds up!
Chris
Edit – an aftershock was recorded by the BGS at about 04:00 AM according to their spokesman being interviewed on 5Live.
Thanks for the heads-up Roger.
It’s only a short item but for those (like me) not in the area, you can watch tonights edition of Midlands Today via this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/midlandstoday/
The link is on the right-hand side of the page. Probably only available until tomorrow evening though!
Cheers,
Chris.
Hi Gingie,
Just helping out mate. If anything is wrong (which it might well be) let us know. Be interesting to know the full history behind them!
Interesting to see the C-17’s u/c is down and the cargo doors open though.
That crater shot looks like a typical Sheffield road!
Chris
The Officer’s Mess and some of the barrack blocks at Binbrook aren’t a great deal different either. In fact, the Officer’s Mess looks identical.
Chris
It has to be said that unfortunately there is a certain, probably minor element, of so-called “urban explorers” who do tend to push it rather a lot. There have been instances where they seem to take great delight in their reports in explaining how they have evaded the security of some sites, not just airfields.
1Group is correct. Whenever we go out we either have prior permission or at the very least, go door-knocking or seek out someone. If we’re told “no”, then so be it, we make do with long shots. If we’re allowed anywhere, we clarify the places we can and cannot go. Thus, everyone is happy.
Sadly it is the antics of a small percentage of people who persist in such activities which tend to tar those who have a genuine interest with the same brush. Long before I was aware of urban exploration web sites, when I started Airfield Archaeology, I placed a disclaimer on the front page. Those who 1Group mention have done the same. We go to great lengths to make sure we behave responsibly, with care and respect for landowners and their property. Indeed, asking around has led to us to meet some fascinating people who have been of great help; friendly and willing to share a little of their time and in some cases, show us around their airfield buildings, etc. It’s even nicer when you are offered a cup of tea! I would like to publicly thank them here and now (not just for the tea either!).
A couple of people have mentioned curiosity in some of the posts. Yes, I suppose it is but isn’t that what history is about? However, it isn’t difficult to satisfy that curiosity in a sensible manner. After all, may of the excellent books on the subject might not have come to be written.
Chris
Caterpillar Club
I am trying to find out if there is a list of when these awards where given out. A person i have thatched a roof for, father recieved this award. Talking to customers wife she has it on a charm bracelet. It just says PO J W Pierce. They told me he was killed 4 March 1945. From this i was able to tell them that 174944 F/O John Walton Pierce was in Mosquito X1X V1-H 169sqdn
MM640. This was on the way back from Germany, then shot down over Norfolk. His pilot was Sqn/Ldr V J Fenwick. This was unknown by the family, his son being very young at the time. But I now am trying to find out when and what aircraft he bailed out off to recieve the caterpillar badge.Many thanks
Dave
Hi Dave, I’ve sent you a PM with some contact details.
Chris