RAF Record Cards
Hi,
I can only really add what others have said here in that one of the best places to start is the RAF Museum. Although I haven’t started hitting the aircraft record cards yet (I’m sure this is about to change over the next few months, so I’m taking notes here too!), they have been more than helpful to us with airfield research. One thing I have found, especially when making an e-mail/postal enquiry is not to expect a result by return of post! Needless to say, the research department at Hendon is a very busy place.
Also, I noticed someone mentioned further up the thread that you have to specific about what you require. We foudn this out the hard way; in asking for ‘everything thay had’ on Snaith, an armfull of plans arrived to the tune of thirty-two quid! Sometimes the quality can be a little hit and miss, too – my Waltham plans have seen better days! That notwithstanding, it is a superb resource and we’d be stuffed without it!
There are other ‘Air’ documents which may be of use (all of these are held at the National Archives, Kew):
Air 10/3836 R.A.F. Aircraft Call Signs: Home (1949)
Air 10/3961 Location of Units in the Royal Air Force July 1944-Dec. 1944 Issue 46-51
Air 10/4039 Royal Air Force airfields and flying boat bases in the United Kingdom, Iceland, Malta and Gibraltar: 2nd Edition (1946)
Air 20/2022 Aircraft strength detailed statements 1939 Sept.-1945 Aug.
Air 20/2023 Squadrons: summary by initial equipment and class of aircraft
1939 Jan.-1945 May
You could spend ages on TNA’s web site just going through titles! Good luck with the research.
Meteor Allocations
Hi all.
I am looking for RAF Sqn allocations and service histories for the following FR.MK.9 Meteors:
WL259
WX963
WX967
WX975
WX980
WB123
WB140Thank you.
avinoam549 – this might help,
WL259 – No RAF History – delivered straight from Gloster Aircraft to Israel and coded No. 212
WX963 – No RAF History – delivered straight from Gloster Aircraft to Israel as No. 216
WX967 – 187 Sqn, Gloster Aircraft (03/09/54), to Israel as No. 211
WX975 – 187 Sqn, Gloster Aircraft (23/08/54), to Israel as No. 215
WX980 – No RAF History – delivered straight from Gloster’s to Israel as No. 217
WB123 – 92 Sqn, 2 Sqn, then to Gloster’s (09/08/54) and to Israel as No. 213
WB140 – 79 Sqn, 208 Sqn, then to Gloster’s (09/08/54) and to Israel as No. 214
As you’ve probably worked out, they are all Gloster-built FR.9’s and some more information can be found here: http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/israel/types/meteor.htm
Steve may be able to help with further, more detailed information than the Air Britain list I’ve referred to.
PS
I can’t type, either!
Lancaster Legend etc
I was watching my copy of Lancaster Legend last night, have to say I was not aware of the other two, are they commercially available?
Lion Rock, as far as I’m aware they’re not commercially available but I do somewhere have all three on VHS. As I’ve only just acquired another working video recorder, I’m going through tapes trying to find them. They were all half-hour documentaries hosted by Currienand broadcast in the mid ’80’s. As I said in an earlier post, I don’t remember the order in which they went out but the titles were: ‘Lancaster Legend’ (obviously, that appears to be reason for this thread!), ‘The Augsburg Raid’ (which I unearthed yesterday) and lastly, ‘The Watch Tower’, which is a look at the legends and folklore which has built up around disused airfields. Some good very early footage of East Kirkby on this one IIRC. I’m still looking for tow of these vids.
Cheers
Chris
Lancaster Target
Lancman,
Sorry to here about the quality of the content of the book. It does seem such a shame.
I don’t know whether you received my message but could you PM me and I’ll fill you in on progress? This is what Bank Holidays are for when there’s no flying near by. Oh, and it’s started slinging it down now! There we go – Bank Holiday!
Cheers.
Chris
Jack Currie Items
With reference to Lancman’s obviously frustrated remark, I have a copy of this somewhere! However, it’s a while since I’ve seen it myself and I’ve moved house since and actually not watched any videos in ages. Currie actually did three half hour documentaries. The titles elude me at the moment but one was of the Augsburge Raid, Led by Jon Nettleton and flown by 44 Sqn; the other is indeed the ‘Lancaster Legend’ (or someting along thise lines!) which is, from memory, a personal account by Currie of joining and flying the Lancaster and the third, which I think was a BBC Look North programme, focusses on the ‘ghosts’ of airfields. Interestingly, this also includes a brief interview with Fred Panton and a look at the Ghost of East Kirkby. Iy also includes shots of the tower long before it reached its now superb state. I MUST look these vids out.
Chris
Thanks for that Jerry.
I knew about the ‘lettered’ categories but couldn’t remeber the exact definitions. The rest are also very useful! Maybe I should get around to unpacking my old copies of Air Britain!
Cheers for your time,
Chris
How often do they haul it out and run it up?
Quite regularly throughout the ‘season’ which is between Easter and November, although the Museum is open throughout the year. On the taxi-run days, there are normally two runs. Sqn Ldr Paul Day, ex-BBMF, pilot’s their Spitfire T.9. Check the web site: http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/information.cfm
I was out with 1Group last Saturday and despite the evening being, er, ‘crisp’ (NX611 had a healthy coat of frost by 19:30 and there was much frantic defrosting of the perspex!) that was easily forgotten when it started up. I don’t know whether it was the cold or not but the loud crack when the engines ignited was awe-inspiring 😀 . Very much an eveing for letting the imagination run riot, especially as she was in her natural element – a genuine WW2 airfield, at night. Since my last visit a few years ago, there have since been added discreet green decals to engine nascelles, on the radiator scoops simply stating: ‘Powered by Rolls-Royce Merlin’. What more can you say! 🙂
The B-17 photos are mine. 1 Group was around here during the week and we crashed through some of my old photo albums and it he who suggested they go up online. I joined the forum last night in case I replied to anything, so I thought I’d come clean and own up to the photos!
On reflection, I think it’s more likely I took them in 1979 and not the early ’80’s, as the same show also included the Red Arrows’ last display with Gnats. The event/venue is the Battle of Britain ‘At Home’ day, Finningly, September, 1979. The camera was a Kodak 126 Instamatic, which if you’ve never seen one was basically a fixed focus point-and-shoot jobbie using cartridge film, usually 16 exposures. The weather on the day was truly awful, as you can tell, although the years haven’t been kind to the prints either. To be honest, I don’t know whether any of the photos are really fit for public consumption but I’ll post any up here. The intention is to scan all of my airshow photos (thew few that there are) and put them online anyway.
Now if the weather had been fine that day, they have resembled Cestrian’s B-17 shot!