The bigegst waste was thenumber of different aircraft in operation while even the US rapidly started to go to a high low mix with just 2 designs, the UK did it with 4 different designs, the second is the low level of coorperation in europe which was in the past a big problem, then never get along, they never agree on anything

The least waste of money in my eyes are still the vanguard subs with nukes, because fear and deterrence are priceless in any conflict, definately today with china, india, pakistan, iran soon and others obtaining larger numbers of mass destruction weapons, europe needs it independent nucleair arsenal, now more then in the cold war, because the world isn’t as certain any more.

ex f16A’s, allreaound, easy spares and very good performance

i very pleased to see the bones are back and hey the hornet looks pretty good in those colors too 🙂

Ahh…

They have for now…I’m talking upwards of 15-20 years in the future.

I say that ex-Invincibles are possibilities in the future,not now…

“Brazil is a interesting case and surely not the norm. Regardless, the Sao Paulo and the ex-Kuwaiti Skyhawks will have make do for another 10-15 years at least. After that its a “BIG” question mark! The old French carrier is rather small and can’t carry many of the newer generation Naval Aircraft. Further, only a very few countries build such naval fighters. (Russia, US, and France)..”

Yes…the huge question mark.

It can’t carry on much past 2020 nor can it’s aircaft….as much as I love the Skyhawk. It hinges on the government commitment to naval aviation at that point. If it’s good…..Ex-RN is a very viable option.

LOL

you gonna exchange a 32.000 ton carrier for a 19.000 ton midget hibrid, crammed cruiser……….????
and claim that will do better?? in the future

okay that’s the joke of the year

for those not to smart, you can put anything that can land on a 19.000 ton CVL on a 32.000 carrier

though ship, but that’s common with US ships, hard to sink they are

I agree that Belgium is a possibility.

nice, some new ships, anything beats our old wandelaar stuff, but this is the first i heard of it

belgium will by new helicopters in a joint armed forces program, the question is when (delays delays) and what???

Obviously that is the real reason, but the story which is the “official” one is that the French wanted to be design leader and some other parties didn’t like that.

that is indeed the reason and probably dissagreement on the workshare division

france did have a point for teh design leader as they had alot more experience with high performance fighters then any of the other participants

well they did the same as the other 4 togheter iin less time, a worthy achievement and a way way better looking aircraft 😉