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  • in reply to: Surviving Gun Turrets #1052891
    Peter Mills
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    Yes James, you are correct, the Shacks have N type turrets.

    WR982 – Long term project to get it working again, some big lumps removed for off site refurb. Quite a bit of corrosion on the large castings. Eventually will be rebuilt to a working condition and fitted with dummy guns. WR974 has all the turret bits in place but the same corrosion problems are evident. No plan of action for this one.

    Fortunately we have the manual for this turret.

    in reply to: Surviving Gun Turrets #1053043
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Just to be pedantic the Shackleton Turret is not a type L. At least according to the manual. It does move though, 20 deg either side and 5 deg up and 30 deg down.

    in reply to: JP3A manuals #1074003
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Hi Neil,

    thats’s fascinating, we knew that most of the bits other than the fuse weren’t original, but certainly didn’t know about XM479 having the wings. A nice item to add to the history, must get the lads to try to find which wings are on 494. Good to know something still works from 494. The intention is to XN494 taxiing eventually. We have a Monarch pilot who flew her and would love to give her the first taxi. We’ll also put her back in a more appropriate colour scheme.

    in reply to: Sea Prince Colours!!! #1070301
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    OK, I wasn’t going to make any more comments on this subject, but!

    The level of arrogance and inaccurate information is now at an all time high.

    To help you understand I’ll say this slowly.

    Paint stripped Sea Prince.
    Found six or seven layers of paint and primer.
    Some of layers were DayGlo, lowest layer, that nearest the metal was red.
    For AMBs benefit; not orange, not DayGlo, not orangelike but red, as in red. Please don’t make me repeat it again, you’ve already worn that one out.
    That’s not from a book,third hand, dodgy photos but actually on the airframe.
    It doesn’t matter how many times you put up a picture showing a Prince in its current top coat colour, it does not show the colours that are beneath the top coat. Why is that so difficult to comprehend? We are not saying that all airframes were in this colour, but this one it seems was.

    Chox please try to get the facts right, I understand your natural desire to be right 100% of the time but sadly you are not. Just a couple of corrections, I never called you an “armchair expert”, I believe that was my colleague MJR. You’re wrong about the Meteor also, the colours it wears were painted when it was at North Weald, a little simple research would have shown you that. Still lets not facts ruining a good slagging eh! You appear to have decided to try to denigrate GAMs effort to preserve airframes. I could go on picking to pieces your inaccurate assertions but I don’t know what it would gain. To be absolutely honest personally I really don’t actually care about your views, amusing as some are, we will continue to try to maintain and breath some life in these old birds no matter what colour they are. If you don’t like what we are doing, well to quote Chox, “tough”. Actually I think we may have some fun with colour schemes this year! The Vixen could be a good candidate, she’s due some remedial work.

    The many visitors to the museum (–noun
    a building or place where works of art, scientific specimens, or other objects of permanent value are kept and displayed.
    ) all seem to be pleased and are very complimentary about what we are doing.

    We always pleased to welcome anyone to the museum to wonder at our oddly painted collection, and I mean anyone.

    in reply to: Sea Prince Colours!!! #1075550
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    One of the Sea Prince roles was to train Anti-Sub Operators, the T1 had a configuration of three ASV19a/b positions. The doors that open just behind the nose wheel are/were used when sonobouys are dropped. Inside the aircraft there are two bays in the floor (one per side) with a lid that opens to load the device. I believe that other objects, (Markers etc) could also be deployed via these chutes.

    Just removed the last paint from WH118 nose. A lovely shade of RED, note not Gayglo… Despite being told from a primary source, some still persist in their assertion that only Dayglo was used. These individuals only show that that are specifically and generally not reliable sources of information. We are often told that we have not painted an airframe in its “proper” colours. There are two points I wish to make. Firstly an airframe that has been in service for decades has probably had many paint schemes, which one is “right”? Secondly, in the end the owner can paint it sky blue pink if he wants. Get over it if you don’t like it, or better still buy your own and you can exercise the choice that the owner has!

    in reply to: Buccaneer Shots #1077087
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Oh dear Chox!

    You are obviously an expert on Sea Prince colours, not!
    The red used on the Sea Prince predates the use of Dayglo.

    We found the original red when the nose was stripped a few years ago.
    In fact the other airframe is going through the same process at the moment and guess what, the lowest layer is red not Dayglo.

    Dayglo is a real pain outside, it only lasts a few months even with “the proper” lacquer coat, so finding the red was a bonus.

    On the other hand, the blue on the Bucc came out of the tin a different colour than it said it was and dried to the lighter shade, it should be corrected this year.

    in reply to: Scrapping the Nimrods at Woodford #1093011
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Its actually arguable that BAe never actually designed and built a new aeroplane… every aircraft they’ve ever built was either based on a legacy design from BAC or HSA or built in collaboration with someone else…

    A well developed business model, probably most successfully implemented by Microsoft, seems to have worked for them!

    in reply to: A1961 Intercom Amp #1093463
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Yes, I know a man (one of our number) who has both versions diagrams. I’ll contact him and get copies for you. PM when I’ve got them for address info etc.

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton #1108126
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    I have the weights and C of G for the Shack Mk3 in pdf form if you still need it.
    The MK3 is a bit heavier than the MK2. Most of the big lumps come apart quite easily. The wings (sorry! correctly called the mainplanes, as I was told in the RAF.) are in five main parts. The centre section would not normally be removed. If you need info/help please contact me/us via the Gatwick Aviation Museum web site.

    in reply to: RAF St Eval explosion #1112296
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    It’s also interesting to know where the nearby hill was. I lived at St. Eval in the mid seventies and I’m struggling to remember much high ground in the immediate area. There may have been slightly higher ground nearby, to call it a hill was a bit of an exaggeration. Difficult to remember where you could overlook the airfield anywhere in that area. I also find it highly unlikely that any explosion damaged buildings in St. Merryn, it’s almost as far as Padstow! If damage was felt that far away then St. Eval would have been flattened! Always interesting to see how the story about real events change over time, makes you wonder how factual our so called “known history” is.

    in reply to: Hunter XF382 New website #1119411
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Good to have a lot of content for just one airframe, well collected and presented.
    Statcounter report that Firefox is now more popular in Europe than Explorer, some of the formatting when viewed with Firefox is a little haphazard. Just typical of the sort problems we web authors have to deal with everyday. I offer this not as a criticism but as a comment which you or may not wish to address. Personally I only test pages with 3 browsers now, explorer, firefox and safari. The rest make up less than 2% of the total page views.

    in reply to: Scrapping the Nimrods at Woodford #1146155
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Of course they could have looked at a more modern design, after all the Boeing P8 is a development of the much newer 737, that didn’t take to the air until 9 April 1967! A real advance that will be, when it enters service, only 44 years old so far. Some real jokers on here lately……

    in reply to: Gatwick Aviation Museum Planning Application #1152496
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Sorry Phantex can’t let that one go without comment.

    When a local zoo’s (in the green belt) planning application was turned down it went out of business. Strangely when a developer was granted permission for housing on the site the council approved it, still green belt but obviously not green belt, I guess just depends on your priorities and where the most council tax is coming from!

    in reply to: Gatwick Aviation Museum Planning Application #1152770
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    Thank you for all of the replies.
    The architect of the plans is very experienced especially with this type of application and in particular within the green belt, the “building” is not a hangar. A great deal of consideration has also been given to ensuring that local support is gained. At this time it is not appropriate to put into the public domain plans which the council have not yet seen. Once the application has been formally lodged the plans will be put onto the web site. A large sum of money has already spent to produce this application. Should the museum be succesful it will need to raise between 6 to 8 million pounds to actually build and carry out the plans.

    Of course the as far as we are concerned the real objective is to get the airframes under cover and stop their slow deteriation, then for us the real work starts.

    in reply to: Scrapping the Nimrods at Woodford #1088085
    Peter Mills
    Participant

    TO23 I know for a fact that at least one organisation expressed great interest in the offer! No communication since the letter, maybe because the named airframe has not yet been fully dismantled. On the other hand………..

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