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November 8, 2006 at 12:39 pm in reply to: Airport operator backs rail link. #508738

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So presumably all that would change in your case is that you’d get off one train and onto another at Paisley Gilmour Street (PGS) instead of walking downstairs onto either the Arriva airport bus or a taxi… ?

Hopefully the timings will be right otherwise you could be waiting upto half an hour for the GLA connection. You could walk to GLA from PGS in 20 mins.

Good point!

November 8, 2006 at 12:12 pm in reply to: Airport operator backs rail link. #508749

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GARL

Will the regular SPT services be calling in at GLA or is it just a dedicated airport service like the Heathrow Express ?

As I understand it a third line is to be laid inbetween the two main tracks between Glasgow Central and Paisley Gilmour Street. This line will be for airport train use only, so what I don’t get is what trains exactly will call into GLA ?

Presumably the Gourock/Greenock service to Glasgow would be occasionally be diverted along the new GLA spur, otherwise it’s kind of looking like a Glasgow Central-GLA-Glasgow Central loop service.

Paisley Gilmour Street will act as a `hub` for GLA train services. So I would need to change there if travelling from Bishopton if I understand it correctly.

http://www.spt.co.uk/garl/garl-background.html

November 8, 2006 at 11:29 am in reply to: Airport operator backs rail link. #508774

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As its in the west I don’t see how.
But the SE needs to get a grip on the roads in and around Glasgow. They’re a blooming nightmare and the one single reason I loath trekking to GLA for a flight.

I find the trek from Bishopton a breeze. Will be even easier if the airport trains stop here. 🙂

Also I find the `trek` from Bishopton to Fife a breeze outwith peak times as well. What roads around Glasgow do you have a problem with? You can expect congestion on any roads into any UK city at peak times. I find the delays crossing the Forth at peak times on either main bridge are similar to passing through Glasgow on the M8. The M74 will of course make access to and from GLA from the east much easier and also allow quicker access from the south west to EDI.

November 8, 2006 at 11:28 am in reply to: Airport operator backs rail link. #508778

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Give the website time…

Will GARL politically also take a back seat to the new
Forth Crossing? :confused:

What has GARL got to do with it? :confused:

BAA now carrying the information on EARL but still nothing on the EARL website.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y3311202E

November 8, 2006 at 10:50 am in reply to: Airport operator backs rail link. #508899

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The Glasgow Herald carried this story today

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/73909.shtml

As for the other web sites..give them a chance to catch-up..

All capital project costs increase and no dout EARL will be no exception.. Shouldn’t we be wishing an aviation project
well instead of talking it down? 😉

It is bit disappointing that the EARL official website sees no need to update such important news.

Talking it down? Not me. Simply being realistic. I am all for a rail link at EDI but politically it is going to take a back seat to the far more vital new Forth crossing.

November 8, 2006 at 10:27 am in reply to: Airport operator backs rail link. #508907

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I’m all for “surface access strategies” but what’s changed BAA’s tune here ? Why have their concerns about the runway collapsing into a massive crevice suddenly been allayed ? Have TIE come up with some sort of insurance bond ?

As I understood it BAA were all for EARL as long as the Scottish Executive underwrote the risks associated with the tunnelling… :confused:

Actually this seems to be a non-story. According to the SE site the objection still stands

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/committees/edinburghAirLinkBill/inquiries/ea-objections.htm

And if this news was genuine EARL/TIE would be screaming about it – they aren’t

http://www.earlproject.com/news/index.html

Which is sad because the longer these objections stand they more expensive EARL becomes and the less likely it will ever come to fruition.

IMHO the new Forth crossing will become a much bigger SE priority very shortly and EARL sadly, will quietly disappear off the political map.

May 19, 2005 at 5:05 pm in reply to: EDI Masterplan #615059

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This has been released to the public today, shows lots of exciting developments,

http://www.baa.com/main/airports/edinburgh/about_edinburgh/edinburgh_airport_master_plan_frame.html

The FOAI Economic Impact Report which a lot of the economic and employment predictions are based on is also available –

http://www.baa.com/2005/masterplans/edinburgh/FoAeconomicImpactStudy.pdf

May 12, 2005 at 7:51 pm in reply to: BAA traffic figures for April #620055

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http://www.baa.com/main/corporate/newsdesk_frame.html

Growth a bit slower in some cases. Maybe due to the early Easter this year?

GLA’s growth is somewhat down simply due to the unusually high increase it had for the same period last year.

More excellent results though for BAA’s Scottish portfolio – they are doing a splendid job despite the lo-co competition at PIK.

May 11, 2005 at 6:00 pm in reply to: Dubai is new long-haul favourite #620659

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http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5038687.html

I knew the EK service from GLA was a huge success but didnt realise it was beating the 3daily summer services to YYZ pax wise. 😮 Good news for EK and GLA.

Great news for Scotland! Success like this will only bring more direct flights to Scotland.

May 9, 2005 at 1:37 am in reply to: Glasgow back in the runway race #622065

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My suspicions have been aroused….my beady eye will be fixed firmly on this thread.

In the meantime, can we please avoid yet another GLA-vs-EDI? I don’t care who started it or who thinks they didn’t – let’s stop it here and now.

I’m seriously considering adopting a policy of awarding a 24hr ban to anyone who starts a GLA-vs-EDI thread or turns an otherwise “innocent” thread into one.

The latter would have my vote. Is there any logical reason why anyone should turn this into a GLA v EDI thread? I posted the link for general discussion – in a forum where it is on topic – quite why it suddenly turns into a matter for discussion by moderators is a sad reflection on the narrow-mindedness of some contributors in Central Scotland.

Instead of trying to exploit the EDI v GLA issue – shouldn’t all of us in Central Scotland be grateful of the fact that the majority of us are no more than 1 1/2 hours at most from EDI, PIK or GLA and the myriad of flights now available from these airports? The fact that BAA is hedging it’s bets re future expansion is even better for all of us and the fact that PIK’s owners are finally investing in the airport infrastruture is also good news.

We have never had it so good and the article I posted suggests to me that if it ever comes about BAA will ensure that the location of an extra runway will be decided by them and not politicians.

Simple as that – and who can blame them.

May 9, 2005 at 1:21 am in reply to: Glasgow back in the runway race #622071

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I should have said it’s best for the politicians to “slug” it out. 😉

To be fair Allen – it is for BAA to sort out – politicians have nothing to do with it. BAA clearly have a better insight into future developments at THEIR airports than any MSP’s will have. BAA are carrying a sterling job of improving the profitabilty of ALL airports in their Scottish portfolio – the `leak` would appear to suggest they are ensuring outside and polictical influences will not have any bearing on their future plans. Some MSP’s seem to be under the impression Scottish aviation is nationalised and under their control- thankfully this is very far from the truth.

Scottish commercial aviation is thriving and I trust BAA to ensure that is the case for many years to come.

And for what it is worth – neither EDI or GLA will have – or need – a second runway. Off-peak there simply isn’t the need for it and in OUR lifetime that situation is unlikely to change.

May 4, 2005 at 4:58 pm in reply to: Glasgow Airport Summer Schedule Flight Guide #703397

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Can anyone tell me if there is still such a publication as the Glasgow Airport Summer Schedule Flight Guide and if so where I might be able to get a copy?

Thanks

Clive Braham’s excellent http://www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/ is a fine online resource.

May 4, 2005 at 4:58 pm in reply to: Glasgow Airport Summer Schedule Flight Guide #661115

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Can anyone tell me if there is still such a publication as the Glasgow Airport Summer Schedule Flight Guide and if so where I might be able to get a copy?

Thanks

Clive Braham’s excellent http://www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/ is a fine online resource.

April 20, 2005 at 11:34 am in reply to: General Discussion #361244

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It really depends who get’s to the final but EDI and PIK are often used as arrival points for Euro ties being held in Glasgow. Airliner World recently ran a retro article on PIK during a 70’s Uefa final at Hampden Park, the place was choc a block !

And didn’t Edinburgh receive that rarther elegant Tupolev 214 recently and that was for a game in Glasgow? 😀

Yes that was why I said “However if the amazing traffic levels reached in 2002 for the CL final then EDI, GLA and PIK can all expect to be stretched.”

EK never mentioned any specific airport.

April 20, 2005 at 9:55 am in reply to: General Discussion #361328

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that was a trip report.

this thread contains little more than a mention of possible GLA activities. 😉

I’m sure it mentioned possible activities at EDI and PIK as well.
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