The bid problem with canard and stealth is if the canard elevates and creates a nice vertical reflector normal to incident radar from the front.
Solutions
Make the canard from a non reflecting material
Do not use it in normal flight, either it merely energises air prior to meeting main wing or it is only used for take off and landing
Rear visibility, get rid of the canopy and have virtual imagery (which can be 360 and mean not worrying about heating and melting the canopy material
Horrible crosswinds, use TVC for yaw control
Very rare for me to jump to Scooter’s defence but I think that it’s beholden on us to be honest if we decide to answer a question different to the one which a thread starts with. (Don’t get me wrong I like thread drift but …)
How will the wests big 4 work together.
EF goes high and fast as a perimeter, protects ingressing friendlies and ambushes opposition as they transit the battle space
F22s used to go looking for trouble and establish air superiority over key areas (and then later sent in to swat anything which flies over)
Rafaele does strikes and collection of elint
JSF used for SEAD DEAD
Simple
The Billion $ question is this:
How much reduced range will those “fixed engines” cut??
Cause i count four engines there.Fuel consumption is a bitch:rolleyes:
Nah mush, those nacelles are for the plasma sheath
What new air assets and/or technologies would allow a smaller (say 65k ton) future carrier to accomplish what a larger current CVN does today? Or at least close the gap sufficiently to counter some of the ratio’s mentioned in http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2011-09/supercarrier-not-superfluous?
Hmmm,
My definition of a supercarrier (not the official but good enough for me) is that it can do Strike Carrier and Escort Carrier from one platform so capability wise:
Smaller, lighter, cheaper airframes with longer range and greater endurance. So we can cram more airframes on the deck and each can do its business further away from the ship.
STOVL without compromise. So we can operate in a wider range of weather conditions (stop then land vs. land then stop) without worrying about sailing into wind.
Smaller, lighter, cheaper AEWs definitely
A genuine counter to wake homers, putting a Frigate in the way is expensive and wasteful
Costwise
At the moment I do not believe that a 65k ton nuke flat top can be built and operated for half the price of a Ford so:
Cheaper non fossil fuel reliant propulsion. PV cells robust enough to be landed on or lifetime nuke fuel or or or
Cheaper, smaller, lighter, longer range, greater endurance etc escorts. Otherwise any nominal cost savings in the HVU get wiped out by cost of keeping them viable and safe
Automation to allow much lower manning levels whilst also giving enough spare bodies for NBCD
Accurate, long range, unguided munitions (cheaper see?)
I think I much agree with the conclusion of http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a227420.pdf
Difficult not to
The navy will EVENTUALLY get the LCS to work, but their entire approach has been LETS BUILD A FEW, USE THEM AS OPERATIONAL/TESTING SHIPS, AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM THERE….A questionable approach but i feel the USN will eventually get a bigger gun and maybe LRASM incorporated onto the LCS…
I appreciate that is discussion not news so I ask for your forbearance.
I have big reservations about LCS. But…
Although not an all electric design they do generate a lot of power
USN is developing DEW and MLA
Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the Mickey Mouse gun and views are but placeholders until they actually get the weapons which USN plans to fit?
The USN faces one similar problem to RN.
the fear that number of platforms will always be cut so a desire to make each platform as good as possible, and hence each platform is more expensive and more vulnerable to cuts in numbers.
If there was a genuine proposal to provide two CVF sized (but nuke powered) flat tops for the same money as one Ford class would the USN support it? I suspect not due to the fear that this would leave them with the same number of smaller and less capable carriers rather than twice as many.
Am I alone in thinking that AWs Project Zero is a step towards offering AEW for CVFs?
Genuine question for genuine information.
If South Korea wants a platform to wipe out NK SAMS then why have Boeing not offered Growler?
It has the kit to detect launchers, it has harm integrated and (presumably) will be near the front of the line for SDB integration (if not already integrated) and Boeing have a good relationship with ROKAF.
Presumably no Jamming pods will be required so there are potentially plenty of hard points for munitions available.
What am I missing?
but while russian aircraft mostly use 30 mm cannon , USAF fighter use 20 mm mainly ( except the F-35 ) so there may be reason for that :rolleyes:
Of course there is/are
Any engineering decision is ‘least worst’ rather than ‘best’, which sadly does not exist.
That does not mean however that anyone who does not choose the US route is wrong. The USMC for example were interested in the 27mm Mauser for jsf.
The lighter round allows more ammo for example. The ballistics may also be more predictable. I suspect that less muzzle velocity makes lots of engineering work simpler.
Let us taken all us example. F15 has the Vulcan in the wing root which means deciding where to make view ahead/flight path and stream of projectiles converge. The f18 mounts Vulcan in the nose so that convergence is not an issue. But it does risk blinding the pilot with smoke in day and flash at night. It also makes packing avionics in the nose harder and also potentially cooling those avionics. Two approaches, same weapon, different pros and cons.
and also air to air you dont need very big bullet
Because there is no amour, almost all of the airframe contains something vital, and various the bits of metal/composite are already stressed and waiting to fly apart?
All of which is true but modern airframes have to be unbelievably strong (able to withstand a large load) which means materials with high tensile strength instrong structures which tends to lead to toughness as well (can withstand a shock load, like being hit by a fast-moving lump of metal)
The heavier rounds also ‘keep’ their kinetic energy longer in flight, have less tendency to drift with wind and are able to shift more of their kinetic energy into the structure they hit.
Added to which have you seen how much larger the propellant case is on those big 30mm rounds? 😮
Then a AIP equipped SSK has no real advantage over a SSN then???
COST
I can think of the 666 one but 665???
The neighbour of the beast?
Of course we all know that 666 is NOT actually the number of the beast don’t we?
^ ok, i’ve gone ahead and moved it to the amphib category.
great pics too, that first one really shows off the substantial size difference between cavour and garibaldi.
Yes indeed. I will cheerfully confess to not realising just what the difference was (or why Cavour was pursued at all) now I know.
Wait…what? The speed of light slows down? Are you sure about that? Don’t say that too loud or scientists will be upset that you’re claiming the one true constant is actually a variable.
Speed of light IN A VACUUM is a constant.
Speed of light changes depending on the medium it is travelling through. If it did not then lenses would not work.
Possible Rafale MLU
Noooooooooooooooo …… the whole point about Rafale is that she is beautiful this is just trying to compete with the latest F16s in the ‘can we hide the plane behind the bulges‘ compettition