Pretty much happy to go along with all that, but the French can have CVF-03 not -02, we need that one. We’ll be happy to build the third ship for them as PA-2,
Absolutely, I wasn’t intending that our Norman chums got one of the two built but rather a third unit (I suspect that that they’d get no 2 and we get 1 and 3). Sorry if what I typed could be misconstrued. This being my daydream dates don’t get pushed back so costs don’t go up, JSF cost increase doesn’t happen (well doesn’t affect FAA anyway) and economies of scale (and compettition for contracts to build blocks between French and British yards….) mean that CVFs come in slightly less than planned so we get CVF 4 as well. Since CVF1 and 2 (and maybe 3) are already showing their worth (Libya?) before the lines shut down.
Plasma sheath surely?
In my ideal world of mutual trade and buying on technical merit
US Army bought Lynx as Scout and British Army bought (W)UH60
USAF bought Tornado IDS and RAF got F15
MN bought CVF as PA2 and FAA got Rafale N
USN bought Spearfish and RN Subroc
NATO standardises on Harrier for light attack and A10 (sorry OA10) for CAS (admittedly there is a reconcilliation to be made here).
Oh and:
USN bought Seawolf (GWS25 not SSN) and in order to sell it BAC sorted an autoloader which the RN gets as well
MN continued with its small calibre CIWS programme
US marinised its Apaches
Gators got skijumps
1) All planes see their lift centre move backwards when in supersonic, nothing clever here.
2) I would hope the Typhoon centre of lift is behind cg in subsonic regime, otherwise the plane would be stable in pitch and less manoeuvrable than pretty much every 4th & 5th gen airframe
Eurofighter disagree with you
http://www.eurofighter.com/capabilities/performance/aerodynamic-characteristics.html
Not that this automatically makes you wrong and them correct.
MainStream Media isn’t it?
Which raises interesting corollaries. When is BBC MSM and when not? Likewise the various Fox channels?
I’m a little confused by the premise.
Are you suggesting the classic British ‘try to the same as the spams but with less money’ tactic?
Are these CVVXs going to do ASW, Assault, Strike carrier and Fleet carrier duties with Harriers?
If so:
3x 30 000 ton 250m ships
Electric podded propulsion
Generation is GTDA and lots of sustainable (PV cells and hrydroelectric for ex)
FA2s for fleet defence
GR9s for strike
Sea King AEW for er AEW
Chinooks for troop and materiel movement
1x SeaRAM
1x Goalkeeper
LOTS of softkill
CEC and barest bare bones of nav radar onboard
T45s minehunting sonar
Other information shared by operating colleagues
Trimaran hullform, maximimise deck space to make use of naval STOVL’s one big advantage over CTOL.
Follow USN practice of parking on deck so relative loss of internal volume and hence hangar space not a disaster.
besides I’m certain there is someone you would loath if the royal navy was going to name a ship for
Yup. Anyone from the Royal Family. I put this one down as an unwinnable fight myself 🙂 Luckily serving in the RN one isn’t required to take the same oath to the aristocracy that the pongoes (and by extension the crabfats) do.
Anyhoo the MLP ship looks interesting. Not sure I fully understand its role, but interesting.
Nice pictures and thanks for the clarifications.
The Dassault Rafale weapon poster was not done by Kovy, it is an official poster by Rafale International (Dassault & Snecma & Thales). :dev2:
I’m sure that you are correct; but I’m not quite so sure that I was claiming that the poster was Kovy’s rather the blog which was being discussed.
Again not a chance!
You read the last line in my post didn’t you?
I’m now going to contradict that and argue with you (although realistically I think you are right and I stick by my original closing line)
A throwaway comment on the wireless yesterday after an article on the nomination of new US CJCS was that the US spends between 20 and 40% on defence. Gulp!
The US have LICENCE-BUILT ‘foreign’ airframes and weapons. If (it won’t) Gripen-N becomes USMC aircraft and by default a presence on CVNs then it will be as a licence-built F/A 25 Corsair III not JAS Gripen-N
The records set up by Streak Eagle were surpassed by P-42 and/or EE Lightning. A documantary that somehow “forgot” to mention that has very questionable credibility, I am afraid.
Claiming that X-31 pioneered thrust-vectoring is a bit of a reach as well.
Doesn’t big brother mean older brother? In that case it fits the bill, and yes the similarities are striking.
Nic
Was X31 designed fly before EAP? It flew about 5 years after I think. If not both EF and X31 are the b@stard offspring of Warton.
Concor(e) with X-31 style thrust vectoring and semi-conformal weapons for JCA?
Until all us cycnics scream that its biased so that the PR value is ruined and Kovy says “OFFS this isn’t worth the grief any more, I did it for fun coz I like aviation and I get this grief“
They should definitey give him(?) a ride in the back of a Raf though, you know so that he(?) can blog authoritavely on what its like.
but alot in the US naval communities are still upset about the USNS Ceaser Chavez. ITs not like it is political pandering or anything….
Yeah. A nation based on the dream of freedom, a chance to make a better life away from the biases, descrimination and repression of other nations. Breaking free of big landowners. A dream of being able to work hard and better onself. Why would that nation want to honour a man who helped workers stand up for their rights? That’d be insane. Especially if he was from an immigrant family. Immigration in the USA, bonkers.
Nah USN won’t touch it. Why bother when they can get Super Hornets!
No but USMC might*. Since IFF JSF dies Gripen-N will fit the USMC’s expeditionary needs far betterer than SHornet. And if USMC buys it then it will end up on supercarriers.
* not terribly likely that the US is going to buy a relatively cheap airframe to replace the programme of the century though even if it does die.