its nice how that pencil beam is going to jam a 4 mether square antena of pesa guidance radar…:D
actually i think its a good comparison just how innefective it is ,ofcource 60s ,70s ,sam systems it does work, most of time.
and emmiters just might be chaff and decoy nearby that radar operator has decided to illuminate…
What happens to a ‘beam’ of RF energy as it gets further from its source?
Consequently, target’s RWR is able to “see” emitting radar at ROUGHLY double the range of that radar’s detecting range, because it doesn’t have to wait for the beam to return.
Thankyou. You hereby win the Al award for most useful most.
Passive RWR vs Active Radar = exact analogy for Hydrophones vs Active Sonar.
Which is currently winning in the war beneath the waves?
And why will it be any different in the skies?
That’s what I call a real proof. 🙂
Here another animation of roughlky the same value..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t672XRKLH4w
Cool does that mean that the RAF are getting B52s or the USAF are getting Typhoons?
Al
Would you send an Avro Lincoln on the same mission as a Canberra? Not a hope.
Oh I agree (and have) that as a pure step change Canberra offered the single biggest step up for the crabfats.
My point is/was that Tyffies and Lightning XI do offer a significant improvement over legacy platforms as well.
Al
A big advantage which Tornado has/had over the Aardvark was how long it could remain very low level.
F111 may well have had better range (dependent on all kinds of variables such as how big a warload vs how much external fuel each is carrying) but it could not fly as low for as long. Partly as the ride was just too darned uncomfortable and the pilots could not possibly operate efficiently in those conditions.
Neither Tonka or Aardvark are the subject of (possibly/probably exaggerated) tales of bazooka rockets bouncing off them so the Bucc’s still ahead on that one (maybe that’s why it appealed so much to an old dyed in the wool Navy man like Mountbatten a throwback to the glory days of battle wagons)
Al
If I understand the origins of the Rafale correctly if there’d been a requirement for replacement C-TOL RN aircraft, the French might never have left the Typhoon programme and Typhoons would be flying from CDG. The increased number of orders for the FAA plus the French might have lead to a smoother development and earlier in-service date (another reason for the French withdrawl from EFA)
It is certainly expensive to marinise a terrestial warplane (even my off-the-cuff list of mods for Tsunami should serve to illustrate that) so actually French were not illogical in deciding that building their own platform to serve Navy and Air Force might be better than collaborating for Air Force and then either a) buying something different for Navy or b) spending big bucks marinising the collaboration.
I wonder whether this was in fact the main driver for pulling out rather than the oft stated demand for an unreasonable industrial share of the EF programme?
Al
Would it be feasable with late 1980s avionics and radars to produce a new version that combined both GR and F variants. It could be the FRS5. Also what would have to be done to navalise a Tornado, whats the shopping list of things?
Replace most of the structural materials with non-corroding equivalents
Replace most of the structural members to take the impulse of catapult launches and impulse of much larger sinkrates
MAYBE re-engineer keel for arrester landings although Tornado has an arrestor hook so this may not be as full on as first looks
Replace nose oleos to increase AoA on takeoff
Replace the tyres (sink rates again)
Raise the cockpit to give pilot a decent view for takeoff
Get ready of bloody ridiculous go/no go flight computer so that don’t lose 50% of sorties as they prep for launch
Call it Tsunami and sell to JMSDF*
Al
*and the French? Hey actually hang on that’s not so silly mayhap give our gallic chums a chance to show that they can play nice in multi-national aircraft porgrammes
I’d go for softkill all the way. For one no running out of rounds at an annoying moment for another no high energy fragments carrying on into my ship.
BUT I’ve still seen nowt to make me think that LCS is a true bluewater combatant nor a FFG replacement.
I may be being simplistic but things like the NAME OF THE SHIP and its Fncking HULLFORM seem to point away from either role.
Al
I like the look of DAS and certainly full coverage passive sensors sound like winners.
If the choice of sprites brings some joy to particular nationalists then all power to their elbows.
Will it live up to billing or live down to estimated costs? That’s in the realm of uncertainty and optimism
Al
You mean a VSTOL/supersonic fighter is a great leap forward? I’m sure both those things have been done before….?
F35 is not a significantly great leap over what goes before.
I have BIG reservations over the Joint Service White Elephant but the key is that although previous warplanes have done
STOVL
or
LO
or
Supersonic
Previously
JSF will be the first to do all 3 in one package.
Similarly Typhoon IS a leap forward for the RAF as it will be their first Air Superiority fighter.
F3 and F4 did BVR interception
F3 and F4 did swingrole
EE Lightning did performance
Jag did dogfighting
But Typhoon will be the first to do all in one package
Al
Canberra
But TBH only because other wiser heads have already pointed out its value. Feel like a bit of a lightweight in comparison.
Al
I think that the F8 looks beautiful
Ugly planes for me:
X32
Most Soviet 2 seat operational conversion versions (2 seat Forger and Foxbat for sure)
2 seat EE Lightning (but not single seater)
Valiant (Vulcan’s ginger stepbrother)
2 seat AV8A/Harrier
F8-3
F111
It is certainly the case that OHPs and Perrys (and if we are honest any skimmer built to a budget) has drawbacks and may well not be as seaworthy as planned or claimed* however both have HULLFORMS which are inherently designed for operations in blue water.
Planing hull forms are not.
Al
* exhibit A: The Leander class, commonly described by VSOs and nautical books as ‘one of the finest seakeeping ships that the RN has ever operated‘ but speak to anyone who has actually served on one and their opinion will differ somewhat
‘Xth Generation‘ is in defence and aerospace used in much the same way as ‘best selling‘ is in publishing. It means ‘whatever definition which we think might lead to more sales‘ however as a broadbrush approach the link provided by pfcem is as good as any you are likely to see.
Al
Oh and talking of tricks being missed…………….
Will the USN replace Perrys with
licence-built Zieven Provincen
licence-built F100s
a rugged own design and build which could corner the market for ‘only surface combatant’ in Navies with much less money to spend
?
Al