“Getting data into an F-22 is not hard,” Keys says. “Getting it out [while staying low observable] is more difficult. We bought the links, but we just don’t have them on yet.” 😉
LM
“The F-35 will be the first jet fighter that has sensor fusion ..” 😉

See this is where your reading comprehension is not up to the task, had you read the articles properly you would see they are already doing it without the links, that is they are already acting as mini AWACS and you cannot seem to understand/comprehend that fact. The whole gist of one of the articles is about it!
You can claim all you want otherwise but you are flat wrong.

You are free to counter that by data and a related source. Non is forced to accept mine or share my opinions about that.

To give you a helping hand about serious reading and stick to your example.

“The Raptor typically flies way higher than everybody else and it handles like a dream at those altitudes.” Tolliver wouldn’t confirm the operating altitude,”

Who is everybody else? We can assume in favor of Mr Tolliver that he has the present US-fighters in mind. Everyone can guess about that from A-10 till F-15, but even that does not work, when the F-15C has a service ceiling of 60 kf too.

I’m really not sure your reading comprehension is up to the job of communicating with others. The gripe was with you claiming that Raptors do not act as mini AWACS, you were proven very very wrong by two articles with quotes from serving airforce personel, you then went on to claim that the article was bogus because it didn’t fit your narrow viewpoint.
To be blunt about it there have been many other threads where people have called you out, quite rightly for what you are and that is a troll.

And speaking of bad behaviour, your blatent trolling in this thread is just that. When another poster mentioned F-22’s being used to help legecy fighters by acting as a mini AWACS you claimed:
“Nice idea, but it does not work, too fast for the subsonic F-16/F-15. If that is not enough, the present F-22A does not have the related network capability to do so at all.
To make things worse, it is limited to some minutes only, even with some arial tanker support. “

Then when shown absolute proof you were wrong you simply switched into troll mode and declared the articles to be lies, lets have a look at what you wrote:
“The Americans can be told everything to stay polite. I will not blame the author for that, maybe he forget that important detail or was not aware about that at all.
Just the critical network fusion is missing with the F-22A and a lot of money has to be taken again to refit that. At least he does deliver the arguments for that, when he was briefed by the military about the “new” role of the F-22A.
Here another highlight of detailed information:
“The Raptor typically flies way higher than everybody else and it handles like a dream at those altitudes.” Tolliver wouldn’t confirm the operating altitude,”

That is what you call trolling, plain and simple and also damn rude to for all those trying to get the real picture are being spoon fed your rubbish.
Stop trying to play the experts on subjects you know nothing about is all we ask.

Well, in pub it is. In the actual air it isn’t. This is why you’re “pub expert”…;)

I don’t drink or venture into pubs for your information and I have no qualifications that are relevent to aviation matters.

Now, perhaps you would care to lay your credentials on the table – no BS as you’re bound to be caught out in the future and by the few actual experts on this forum, just the truth so what are yours?
Infact why doesn’t everyone start laying out theier qualifications/credentials for all to see?

I do think the Dutch should start making their claims on Gibraltar as well. It’s about time, and just as justified as the British presence.

And Gibraltar as British as it gets? Except that it was the first place where I had seen prices in shops in Euros. In 1999.

🙂 Goodluck with that little adventure :diablo:

Well sferrin, the only dark and smelly place around here, is the place you crawled from into this world.
Now, I always knew you’re one of the dumber members (just check your avatar/LOL), but your existence per se, doesn’t give you the right to spread stupidity throughout this forum and especially participate, so arrogantly, in something you don’t understand. It’s not polite vis-a-vis grownups, that are trying to have a conversation here, at least. 😉
So, I was thinking, maybe some of Photoshop skilled guys here, can remove a bra and nickers from sferrin’s favorite F22’s pic, so he can go jerk off and leave the rest of us alone.
Anyway, enough time lost on your pathetic being, sferrin…Get lost.

Now, before continuing, I apologize for colorful language, but this matter needed to be put in check.
As for the data I’m using, it’s all public domain knowledge released through LM’s/USAF’s PR channels. LOL, IS THERE ANY OTHER?!?!? Again, I’m not reading fortune cards and if someone has any objections, just post link, chart, or whatever and than we can talk about that.

Non of that gets around the fact that your claim of Raptors not operating at 60k and that they normally operate at is 36k is utterly wrong.

It’s dark there, it smells, and you REALLY don’t want to know.

Sounds like an accurate guess on your part.

Reality doesn’t seem to agree with you. That’s EXACTLY what the F-22 did in the Alaskan Red Flag (and I’m sure others as much as the ability has been talked about).

Remember, he knows more about the Raptor and how it operates than those who fly it everyday and have done for years do 😉