Thanks for the info. So it was all a set up and “Mr I love Lightnings so much I have one in my garden” is a complete fraud. God I detest that bloke even more if thats possible…:mad:
[QUOTE=Thunderbird167;1123091]No the Clarkson Lightning was XM172 which is now in the Lake District.
Why did the big curly haired:dev2: get rid?
Interestingly, the plane is named Heracles which, if I think correctly, was also added to another ‘big lifter’ in the shape of a Shorts Belfast.
If I am incorrect, i’m sure some kindly soul will ‘put me to rights’ on this and I will plead forgiveness for the error of my statement.
Bomberboy
Indeed it was! All 10 Belfasts (or Belslows :diablo: ) were named after mythical or biblical characters with a strong/heroic connection. Heracles was XR367.
Can’t understand why the USAF keep naming different aircraft the same ! Of course we now have Globemaster III in the shape of the portly C17.
Very nice! Look forward to seeing her over the coming years!!
[QUOTE=Propstrike;1211172]It lists the Vulcan, which would have been pretty optomistic in 2006- mind you, it’s pretty optomistic in 2008!
Aah, right, the flying display list is a provisional 2008, the link I went to above goes straight to the 2006 “overall” list.
Are you sure Kodak? Looks like the 2008 page to me.
Some interesting new models listed:-
Eurofighter Typhonn
Chinock
F-15 Stirke Eagle๐
Sorry to be pedantic, but a bit of attention….John
It may say 2008 but the list is without doubt 2006’s – they just haven’t updated yet. A bit if poor PR really. A list that full for Farnboro’ ’08 won’t be known until at least May.
full list here: http://www.farnborough.com/Attractions/StaticAircraft.aspx
Lots of classic stuff (trying desperately to justify this thread in the historics section) – aircraft which flew at the 1948 show…
Ignore that list – its from 2006!! ๐
Coningsby have a shorter runway, I don’t know the number, I’ve only seen them use it once, I have it on video though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ28CGIldu4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3StyviO9Rqc&feature=relatedVery windy that day, you can just about see where it comes from, sadly that was the first day I had my camera and the memory card I usd was not my 2GB one that I normaly use and the videos kept cutting out on me lol:D
Its not in use or set up as a second runway (no markings/numbers /aids)- though it appears from your video that the BBMF use it for getting airborne. Wonder if they land on it ?
A BBMF move to Scampton was rumoured a few years ago, but someone ‘in-the-know’ pointed out that Scampton has only the one runway, which wouldn’t suit BBMF. Things like the Lanc have relatively low crosswind limits so it’s always best for BBMF to operate from a base where there is a choice of runways, where they can choose the most ‘into-wind’ runway.
:confused: Coningsby’s only got one runway…??
As you say the Wright Trophy is still awarded to the pilot who gives the best aerobatic sequence and is /was open to all Flying Training units. In the “olden” days it was open to all units and flown as a non public competition, the winner (usually a JP jock) could then fly the routine at airshows for that season. I believe that these days, with so few training units, the trophy is awarded to the best demo given at the P&TC display authorisation day at Cranwell. This is where the chosen Tutor, Tucano and Hawk pilots for the season present their sequence to the “brass” for authorisation to display at public events. Flt Lt Childs won it last year for his Hawk demo.
I dont think it has ever been a public event and from what I can recall from old magazines etc, didnt receive much coverage other than announcing the winner. The RAF news/Air clues on the other hand would,I imagine have covered it in more detail. there are definitely records kept, and from old airshow programmes I could probably account for the last 30 years….
The Brabyn Trophy was presented specifically to the best CFS aerobatic routine from 1952 and is now awarded to the best newcomer.
Ok not that close Its not East Midlands or Coventry or Leicester somewhere with proper FOD control and fire cover not that these airports dont have this somewhere used to seeing a Vulcan now and again.Ive been told its just at the tart of the planning stage but if it comes off is another matter thats why im not saying to much about it.:p
If only Bitteswell wasnt a trading estate now! Sure the Vulcan could land at Leicester – once! :rolleyes:
1980 yep i was there, what a day that became, nearly nothing flew although i can seem to remember that the tornado f2 prototype displayed in the murk. You were allowed to walk through the Galaxy and when you are 8 that was something amazing.
It was a real shocker- Tornado showed its wheels through the cloud, a Sea Harrier hovered a bit and IIRC the Blackburn B2 flew around in the gaps. A real shame as it was to have been the last display by the RN Blue Herons Hunter team.
I remember the day well, it chucked it down – so much rain that the show stopped. Even the BBC packed up early. I remember they also had an airworthy Gannet
1986 was a glorious day – with a rare display by a Viggen. I think it must be 1987 you’re referring to, a horrible day that got worse as the day went on, causing the SR71 (only RAF display appearance) to be shelved ๐ก
Lets face it, all the Finningley shows were pretty special, though the weather didnt always help – anyone remember the great fog of 1980?! ๐ฎ





Kodak, could your Turbulent accident be the same one I witnessed at Shoreham (see my post)?
SFF
Pretty sure we never did Shoreham, much too far for us from the Midlands for a small show! I’ll see if my Mum can remember, she has an amazing memory!
Kodak, No543 Sqdn lost another Victor SR.2 10.05.1973 XL230 Crashed during a night overshoot ,lost control and rolled over onto the airfield. Is that the one your friend recalls ?
Hmmm, thats interesting. He was sure it was for a parade or some other ceremony, unfortunately he passed away a few years ago.
Edit – just googled for info and thought I had found my answers only to find it was post by me from a similar thread we discussed 3 years, yes 3!!! ๐ฎ years ago…
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=34925&page=3
Another list of accidents where information is required by my friend in South Africa. Help would be much appreciated.
25 MAY 1965: AVRO VULCAN (RAF SCAMPTON, UK)
The wing of a Vulcan hit the ground after running out of fuel at a US Air Show whilst landing and then skidded into the Air Traffic Traffic Control. XM576.
Detail required. Canโt find confirmation that it actually occurred!VICTOR CRASH????
Internet extract without any substantiation! True or False?
B(I)8 & Gainsey Ref the 543 Victor, 543 were being presented with their Colours, by, I believe, Princess Anne. Anyway they had a parade on the lazy, where also were lined up their Victors. The culmination of this was to be a rapid start and scramble of one of the said a/c. followed by a flypast. Sod’s law came into play and the prime went **** up, the crew, minus I think the Nav Rad, who was to get some pics for the Captain, ran to the standby, started and taxied . He did a wonderful take off (min fuel) airborne well before the intersection and pulled into a tight r.h climbing turn, intending to line up on 27 for a max rate climb, but he was unable to pull onto the centreline due to speed & not letting out far enough so he called going around for another try. He came over us going like the proverbial bat out of hell, and in at least 50 to 60 deg bank, got to the far side of the airfield and the tailplane departed, the rest is history, apart from the fact that I got hauled in to do the first night’s guard at the crash site. Incidently, The Daily Mirror was the only paper to get a photo of the take off and initial climbing turn, and it headlined it’s next day’s edition “Death of a Giant” with said pic on the front page?? SEPTEMBER 1975: HAWKER HARRIER (YEOVILTON, UK)
Yeovilton Navy Day Sep 1975 was marred by an unfortunate incident when the pilot of the Harrier was killed when the ejection seat fired while he was climbing out of the aircraft.
Canโt find any substantiation of this accident!?? 1979: LOCKHEED F-104 STARFIGHTER (BINBROOK, UK).
One of the first early references to G-LOC was in 1979. On the break to land after completing his display, the pilot was killed pulling the aircraft it straight into the ground. G-LOC was assumed as the most probable cause.
Canโt find substantiation or date!19 MAY 1991: PROVOST T5 (ALDERMASTON, BERKSHIRE, UK)
Crashed during a low level turn while practising for an air display.
Detail required. Cause?
Only Vulcan I know of lost at a US airshow was in 1978 at NAS Glenview.
I thought the Victor SR2 crash was in 1974 at the disbandment parade. A colleague of mine was stationed at Wyton and witnessed it and was called on to “pick up the pieces” so to speak. He said it must have been early ’70s?…
I can substantiate the Harrier incident as per my previous post!!! 6 September 1975.
I think the F104 incident must be the Yeovilton one, cant recall anything about a ‘104 lost at Binbrook…
I believe the provost crash in 1991 was a “piston” Provost rather than a JP. Certainly the RAF were still flying the JP and the ’91 season was flown by 6FTS right through to September.