
So Russia’s dream of developing its own 5th gen are dashed. Except that the jet is already developed and is entering production.
This was the senior stealth scientist who said that there was gaps where the vertical stabilizers connect to the fuselage. This scientist -doing an ActionJackson- wasn’t aware that the su 57 has all-moving vertical stabilizers. Which just goes to show what a fools errand doing an ActionJackson is.
In case you were curious about that IHS Janes hotlink. Here it is :
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And ppl like FBW and Haarvala deny that there is a media witchhunt against the su 57 :applause:
Absolute libelous gutter trash journalism gets propagated by mainstream western media outlets. And unsuspecting media consumers get exposed to it and believe it. And pretty soon, the reputation of the su 57 gets completely shredded. Based on nothing but lies and sophistry. And then we have little trash artists like ActionJackson to fill in the gaps.
Where do they get the energy ? How does this garbage pass the editorial board ?
Stealth is in quotes. “NO MORE ORDERS ARE COMING” Yeeahhh.

^ I’m not convinced
@Haavarla
Do you really think that these reports are just honest mistakes from “bad sources” ? Ha..
They aren’t. They are condescending hit pieces against the su 57. It’s a disinformation witch hunt. There is nothing in good faith here. Where are the corrections for these errors ? There is none. Because they know what they are doing
And its exactly what ActionJackson is doing too.
Why the hell should we have to put up with the thread being polluted with things that he makes up ? Look at him. He’s obsessed. He has an agenda. He’s not even an Internet fanboy pseudo expert. He’s a Russophobic sh** poster
You should see what forums devolve into when the sophists just run wild. The stuff they convince themselves of about the su 57 is cringe worthy
Here’s just some more objective fact based reporting from Business Insider. This time, with a link to The Diplomat.

So these mainstream outlets are telling everyone that the su 57 has external weapons. Shameless disinformation peddling.

What ActionJackson does has been the approach of this childish witchhunt all along. Which is the only reason why he does it.

See if you can spot what’s wrong.
It is gutter journalism through and through. And again, this is why ActionJackson does this. He was never an pseudo expert about stealth or anything. He just started doing this to the Pak fa because he seen others doing it.

The National Interest is quoting the Business Insider article which had this doozey in it. Another thing that some pseudo expert made up. Turns out it makes no sense and he looks like a moron. And the National Interest didn’t even bother to check. Why ? Because its a witchhunt. Nobody is interested in the truth here.
^Note the sidebar article links.

^ Here comes the super troll again. Where did you put the red crayons ? He just made a new batch of BS up. Just like the Business Insider hit piece. It’s a witch hunt through and through. The exact some condescending tone, the same junk accusations.
The Iranian fighter “has it better” now. Nice touch. No axe grinding childish behavior detected..
You couldn’t be that arrogant. So it has to be blatant trolling. You are trolling this thread if you have the gall to write that Internet enthusiasts like yourself have a superior grasp of stealth than Russia and the Sukhoi design bureau. Ironically the country who makes the best AIR defense systems in the world. Systems that NATO members would risk losing the F-35 to acquire.
Anyone who wasn’t so arrogant would question their own Internet pseudo knowledge of RCS (IRST & all) before they made such claims that you do about the su 57.
@djcross
Typical thinly veiled innuendo about how.. you know..the su 57 will have an advantage over 4th gen fighters. And umm.. Russia doesn’t need stealth b/c Nato’s sam defenses. We get it. You came here to say that the su 57 isn’t stealth. You just cant let it go.
In 1986, the Soviet government initiated a “Multirole Tactical Fighter (MFI in its Russian acronym)” program to counter Western efforts to develop next-generation fighters, such as the US “Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF)”, which would become the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor.
Some sage analysis from the western defense media on the su 57. And this is the kind of analysis that has convinced a large number of people that the su 57 isn’t stealth.


^ The F-35 is not a bunker jet. This sounds like a perfect application for a 4+ gen workhorse.
^ 4th gen jets are still the backbone of the US airforce. France just started on a 5th gen project while Russia’s is going into production.
It is funny watching the Americans pump China’s tires. I guess with their Russian engines, they are still the underdog.
Love it or hate it, you can’t ignore it. There is nothing quite like the su 57. Maybe deep down they know it’s better. Which is why it gets all the attention.
FBW says that there is no witchhunt against su 57 and these are the same guys who can’t seem to find a single thing wrong with the J-20.
Which is strange because the J-20 is an odd looking aircraft. Built by China who has no experience.
There you go yet again. You couldn’t be that arrogant. So it has to be blatant trolling. You are trolling this thread if you have the gall to write that Internet enthusiasts like yourself have a superior grasp of stealth than Russia and the Sukhoi design bureau. Ironically the country who makes the best AIR defense systems in the world. Systems that NATO members would risk losing the F-35 to acquire.
Anyone who wasn’t so arrogant would question their own Internet pseudo knowledge of RCS (IRST & all) before they made such claims that you do about the su 57.
Im not arguing about the F-35 vs su 57. I am just pointing to what YOU and your ilk would SAY if there was SUKHOI on the serial plate of the F-35 and not LOCKHEED.
@SpudmanWP
Looking at the Su-57 makes it self-evident and valid.
The delusions you internet fanboy stronkists have.. Is just astounding.
No US or NATO official has operated on anything other than the assumption that they are dealing with stealth competitors in Russia and China. Or did you think they refrained from starting F-22 production again because the su 57’s engine cowling was unpainted ? Lol.
But hey. I wont stop you from enjoying your fantasy world. I wish you’d just keep that fantasy world in F-16.net or something like that.