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North-Am F107 😉
Tu-22 Blinder
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those are kinda similar but not the fit and finish of the blended wing design. Its like an upside down B1 or ti 160
Ah, it was 701. In Bourget 1991 Soviets presented MiG-31 and Mikoyan representive said that in next Paris show, they would roll out its successor. This was all very mysterious, and undoubtely he was talking about 7.01 (I’m not sure where the point should be). But apparently it was cancelled 1993.
Looks very racy. Some models in the ‘net have different engine arrangement.
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wow that looks freaking awesome. The engine placement.. Something looks so right about it. Must be a reason why nobody has done it though.
We dont know what range exactly. I am guessing it is super cruise range, and with variable cycle engine is very possible.
MiG-25 and SR-71? What is point to mentioned them? Both are been very old when MiG MFI development started and both were poor fighters (SR-71 isnt fighte at all apple to oranges comparison).
G limit is for pilot not for jet, MiG MFI would have special seat which had 60deg max angle, very complicated solution. Here example what impact on pilot’s g-limit that seat angle have:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/770271.pdf
the Mig 25 was not a poor fighter.
Su-34’s cockpit could look nice grafted onto MiG 1.4X.
Plasma spheres around a vehicle that large must involve serious megavoltage to reach, which would then require capacitors and storage and shielding. Not practical in subsonic aircraft. If hypersonics gets you closer it just may be practical. Unfortunately what obscures EM also inhibits visible wavelengths and imparts an effect on metal parts on every scale. The shielding is unavoidable.
why 1.4x ?
i get it now but i was almost going to google it
Talking about post-Soviet aircraft projects, ISTR that there was also Mikoyan project 801 (or was it 805) which was supposed to produce MiG-31 successor. It was described as “faster and stealthier than 1.42”. Was anything ever published about it?
Just googled it. Nothing came up yet. Post what you have of it.
Its a larger plane vs Su-27, perhaps bar the two verticals.
So how can it possible have superior characteristics?
It may have a a little more fuel, but those engines are much larger, thus they drink more fuel.
That thing could never turn as good as the Flanker.
Its supposed to be a more agile version of the Mig 31. An interceptor. I dunno why they compared it to the su 27.
Mig-1.42 did not had much stealth feature in terms of planform , How did they plan to compete with F-22 ?

Had an S duct config. Not a straight through. But yeah it isn’t stealth. It isn’t nearly in the same league as the Pak Fa and Berkut.
It was to be larger than the MiG-29, to serve as a succes*sor to the long-range MiG-31 and MiG-31M interceptors, but also with the supermanoeu*vrability needed for close combat and the ability to fly air-to-ground missions as well. I
But the US had a total boat anchor 5th gen entry too so we will call it even.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-footage-israeli-jets-attacking-damascus/
Syria news says that Israel attacked with an F 35. Doubt that’s the case,
“The combined instrument-corporation” (part of the State Corporation Rostec) completed the development of radar identification system “friend or foe” for advanced and modernized aircraft complexes Su-35S, the PAK FA and IL-76.
Research and development of equipment in the “military-industrial complex” is the Central Research Institute of Economy, Informatics and control systems. Hardware-software complex is designed to determine the state of aircraft supplies military and civil aircraft and their recognition in order to protect “their” flying machines from the erroneous destruction.
“Most of identification” friend or foe systems “today is already technically obsolete. High energy visibility of such equipment is an important factor in unmasking, which can take advantage of an opponent in the defeat of targets – says First Deputy General Director of the Central Research Institute EISU Inna Grigorenko. – The new software and hardware complex substantially increased range resolution, provided protection from interference and reduced output power, which can significantly increase the level of secrecy of electronic and energy of the whole system. “
In 2016, the system has successfully passed preliminary tests and showed a high level of performance in a complex electronic environment, as well as extreme temperatures and mechanical damage.
No modern fighter is designed for pure superiority role apart from the F-22 really,and even F-22 getting modification do the ground work
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Donald Trump moments ago!
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/trump-again-hints-at-f-35-f-18-competition
Like the Zumwalts, the 1st thing to go will be stealthy add ons.
YF-23 blueprints doesn’t mean much, RCS measurement was done on F-23EMD model which is different then YF-23. And if you look F-23EMD blueprint you see how well engine is hidden. After all it was Northrop which in that moment was world leader in stealth technology.
No I just dont like attempts to prove PAK-FA is same or better then F-22/35 in stealth realm. It simple isn’t no matter Russians say, and I see they are saying it is.
It is similar as if some American engineers say “we can build better RD-180 then russian one”.
YF-23 blueprints doesn’t mean much, RCS measurement was done on F-23EMD model which is different then YF-23. And if you look F-23EMD blueprint you see how well engine is hidden.
I was sent on this wild goose chase already. I had the right blueprints. Just by virtue of the design, some engine face will show.
The fact that some engine shows should tell you something about your attempts to use this as a means to degrade the Pak Fa’s stealth. You are not conceding anything about the YF 23 or the Raptor by admitting this. It does not make the YF 23 less stealthy.
No I just dont like attempts to prove PAK-FA is same or better then F-22/35 in stealth realm. It simple isn’t no matter Russians say, and I see they are saying it is.
It is similar as if some American engineers say “we can build better RD-180 then russian one”.
There is many different ways of looking at this. Both sides agree that Russia has the better rocket engines. But both sides agree that the US has way better carriers. Russia has better mobile missile systems. But for all their faults, the US has the Zumwalts and other things.
I don’t think that fighter aircraft fit into this equation. They have a separate equation. Russia has always been neck and neck with the US. Russia and the US are their only competitors. One reigns supreme without the other. China doesn’t count. Russia has always been an aviation nation.
There are clearly better things on the Pak Fa than the Raptor and vice versa. The Raptor is more stealthy at certain angles than the Pak Fa and vise versa.
And any attempt to dedesignate the Pak Fa as anything less than stealth is going to be met with the most of hostility.
I already posted the production YF 23 blueprints that show the same amount of engine fan as Pak Fa. So that idea can be scratched.
Whether someone took a jig saw to the outer cowleing of the engine yet or not doesn’t put into question the designation of the aircraft.
You either believe the Russian design team or you don’t. They are developing a stealth 5th gen aircraft. You either believe that or you believe that they are faking it. That is conspiracy.
A stealth jet is a jet who’s airframe and layout has been designed to deflect radar. And all the details on top of that does not change whether the contours were directly designed to deflect radar or not.
They make no bones for the fact that their 2nd tier jet (their f35) is not stealth.
To give an end to this cycle, I believe I posed the question very early on.
With regards to the T-50’s (obvious) differences in RCS reduction measures as understood in western design. Russians either :
1. Could (do the same) but chose not to because they had something else up their sleeve
2. Couldn’t and did the best they could.I think that sums it up pretty good.
all else is academic ..
T-50’s (obvious) differences in RCS reduction measures
The Pak Fa critics overblow and exaggerate these differences and take this stealth absolutist position.
For example.
The Pak Fa has no flat nozzles on the engines. So the critics get all highfalutin about this without realizing that the F 35 doesn’t have flat nozzles either.
Or the Pak Fa critics notice some engine face showing up when they look awkwardly down the air intake. They get highfalutin about it without realizing that the YF 23 has more engine face exposed.
And there is other examples that I can get into.
But I must ask.. Why does the Raptor have these huge stationary vertical stabilizers ? Not good for stealth or drag.
1. Could (do the same) but chose not to because they had something else up their sleeve
2. Couldn’t and did the best they could.


KGB, Haavarla was talking about the boundary layer bleed system spill ducts. You are going off in a totally different direction. Do you know what a boundary layer bleed flow control system is? Look on the inside of the F-22 and Pak-Fa inlet.
The spill ducts for said system are on the topside of the F-22 and bottom of the Pak-Fa respectively.
The objective of the highly efficient intake is to create uniform and high pressure recovery flow into the engine face. The PAK-FA’s engine duct is certainly not straight (see patent), and incorporates super & subsonic flow diffusers incorporated into the design. Because the duct is relatively short and varies in cross-sectional area, it will be susceptible to large separated flows, this problem is mitigated by the Gaussian bump/vortices generator type wedge in the inner-intake wall (called the ‘fixed wedge brake’ in the patent), which serves a similar function to the DSI. Combined with the ‘trough’ in the intake mouth, they minimise vortices, wake and boundary layer ingestion by the inlet- especially emanating from external transonic flow of the aerodynamic structure.