If monitoring movements of experienced IS troops across huge swaths of desert is so simple, what stopped the Russians from noticing anything?
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Russia had all of its assets deployed to liberating Aleppo. Syria is a big country. It is a fact that the US has some swaths of airspace in Syria that it illegally claims as its own. They swoop in when the Syrian military shows up but turn a blind eye to isis.
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http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/…/f-22-raptors-swoop-in-to-protect-us-special-ops-forc…
So? The Russian FM openly blames US being behind every setback they have in Syria (e.g. Palmyra recently). I’m sure Libyan or Iraqi ambassadors (under Gaddafi and Saddam’s regimes) spoke much worse nonsense (I’m just singling those out as they were similar regimes to the Assad one).
It’s not like he will bear any responsibility in a few weeks when such claims are forgotten. And it’s not like the UN is a serious organization it makes itself to be in the first place. The representatives there are all just people with their own flaws, misinformation, prejudice, agendas, etc.
It is common knowledge on the ground in Syria that ISIS convoyed across the open desert again in clear view of US aircraft and they did nothing.
i wonder if the Raptor went 2D TVC just because of the baffles.
FFS , can you give your national chest thumping a rest for like a week ?. Why do you still not understand ? no one care about or believe your made up claim and number .Just shut up for god sake.
What was said is not a made up claim. The low bypass ratio engines on the Russian jet is better for speed and high altitude.
What is the cross thing on the sides fuselage forward of the vertical tail?
Top secret.
Does anyone know if they intend to reduce the heat signature of the engine exhaust by having exhaust nozzle baffles, ceramic tiles, or anything like that as the F22 has? Thank you
Not baffles but I hear that they are making some heat reduction system with nitrogen or something.
Priorities. There is a maneuverability price to pay for them.
I’d really caution against the validity of these rumours — I mean they make complete sense of course, especially considering the kind of results that F-22s and F-35s were able to achieve against 4th generation fighters in their early exercises as well — the amount of detail they carry and the original source in the threads are a bit dubious imho.
The J 11’s were su 27 kit planes. Did any of them get thrust vectoring ?
could you give more background about this exercise and what happened?
I believe these rumors about as much as I believe the rumors about Kim Jong Ill golf swing.
10 years ago today, the 1st fight of the F-35
Then choose the words more carefully – they’re SIMILAR in their general triple-section swivel configuration, but F135 nozzle ISN’T a COPY of R79 nozzle.
All of this nozzle talk is beside the point. Regardless. The weight, size and mission scope of the Yak 141 is very similar to the F -35’s.
When exactly? In the 60’s and 70’s they had no money for it (and thus went for the smaller Kiev class in the end), in the 80’s they finally started building one and never finished it as they went bankrupt.
It’s certainly questionable if such a complex project would have been successful given the lack of experience and the issues some of their ships had, e.g. with propulsion systems.
When ? When they were beating the US in the space race.
Because of crazy awesome looks. Its a fricken mach 2+ flying Megalodon loaded with best AA missiles at the time.
this thread needs pics
upon google search.. Its one of the ugliest jets Ive ever seen
Meaning what exactly? 50 years ago, UK decided to replace their “proper” carriers with the new Invincible class operating Harriers which were pretty similar in concept and mission to the Kiev class. Now they will have a bigger class operating VSTOL F-35B, while the Soviets were planning towards catapult equipped carriers (the Ulyanovsk class).
Meaning it is implied that the USSR did not have the technical savvy/capability to build catapult supercarriers when in fact they did. They just elected not to go that route.
I’d be amazed (but happy I love the looks of the design) if the Yak 141 had a better range than the Mig29k
There are absolutely areas where its performance would/would have beaten the various maritime Harriers
IF (and I do not have any data to hand to tell me yay or nay) it could launch and land like the Harrier then the ability to conduct air ops in horrible conditions would have been far better than the Mig. That may have made it the better alternative for the USSR all by itself. For India I’m not so sure.
The USSR specifically shelved plans for catapult super carriers for VSTOL oriented carriers. It was called project Orel. But then they split the difference with the Kuznetsov class. Funny how 40 years later, the UK is doing what the USSR planned to all along.
Enough with the Russian cool-aid already..
Russia is a NC superpower. NONE is gonna invade Russia any time soon(like the first 1000 years).
On a different topic.. how will you guys see the Trump, Mattis and Co handle Middle-East and Russia?
Trump just appointed Rex Tillerson as Sec of state. Tillerson and Putin have been collaborating for 10 years+. In 2013, President Vladimir Putin presented Tillerson with the Order of Friendship, one of the highest honors a foreigner may be awarded from Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUQ0UZsavNs
And Dana Rohrabacher is ambassador to Russia. So I think Russia and the US are set up pretty good to have a proper relationship. One built on mutual respect, intense diplomacy and pragmatism.