http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2016/09/23/396509.html
EDIT:
Latest Su-30SM for the VMF:
Not a fan of the green wheels.
^I am going with 20m or less as per Mig 1.44
what is this thread ?
I am lost.
Sorry … if I’m over-sensitive, then You are over-ignorant and I’m not sure how relevant it is to search for the original F-22 image.
It’s simply some sort of math …
Not sure what obscure link You just found to bake You claim, but most sources say it is about 20,30 (Wiki) or 20,35 m long. Just look at this image … otherwise You surely claim this J-15 is only a sub-scale model.
I am not trolling and I am not trying to get a rise out of you but since substancial rumors of it being a variant of the Mig 1.44, I am going to post the Wiki length of it. I think its relevant to the discussion.
Mig 1.44
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 19 m (63 ft)
can you clarify how Chinese jets are not as rigorous as US and Russian ones?
I never said that. I am just saying both Russia and the US have taken very similar times to build new designs. So when there is an outlier like China and the J 20, I am going to defer to the US and Russia.
Because he supported them enough to prevent their defeat, but no more. The war hawks wanted much, much more.
So its a grey area eh.
KGB claimed – falsely – that there was no Russian involvement in the uprising in East Ukraine. I corrected him. Does “Brits have been fighting on the ukrainian side” make his false claim true? Of course not. So what’s your point? None.
Then why are the war hawks in Russia mad at Putin for not supporting the rebels in Ukraine ?
The new Jason Bourne
Just terrible. It was like watching a 2 hour trailer.
Don’t you read what you’re replying to? You’ve just quoted me out of context, in order to post something irrelevant to what I was saying.
KGB claimed – falsely – that there was no Russian involvement in the uprising in East Ukraine. I corrected him. Does “Brits have been fighting on the ukrainian side” make his false claim true? Of course not. So what’s your point? None.
Define Russian involvement. I said there is no official Russia involvement. And the fighting within the Russian government to get involved or not proves this.
your mig 1.44 clone is being produced faster than the other stealth jets bar f-35
Considering both Russia and the US take decades upon decades to design and produce their jets, I just can’t see how the J 20 has been put through the rigor that US and Russia deem adequate.
No, hundreds of innocents dead, it isn’t at all funny to me.
Nor is it at all odd that there would be a heck of a lot more available evidence in this case than some back-alley crime. Transporting and operating a SAM like the Buk isn’t something done by a single thug… it is the work of a (Russian) government with numerous people involved at one stage or another, people who need to communicate with each other, etc.
And if the US did not overthrow the democratically elected govt of Ukraine, none of this would have happened. Not MH 17. Not Crimea. None of it.
Ok then…possibly russian Army would have known it was a jetliner
That’s right. Which proves that the Russian military or govt had nothing to do with it and would have done anything to prevent such a disaster.
But since the US started this proxy war while Putin was at the Olympics, Russia has decided to let the rebels fend for themselves. And these are the kinds of things that happen when you start proxy wars.
I have no idea what country you live in, but in the UK, eyewitness reports and brief video recordings (including CCTV) regularly lead to criminal convictions. There is no need to have what Starfish Prime described as “a video of it along the whole journey” made by the Buk interest.
I have no idea what country you live in, but in the UK, eyewitness reports and brief video recordings (including CCTV) regularly lead to criminal convictions.
Umm yes of course. But most of that kind of evidence is verified. For example, a 7/11 store that gets robbed that has the video evidence. The police know that the CCTV footage is that 7/11 at the time of the robbery.
The fact that someone has a 2 minute video of a BUK on a trailer means nothing.
Ehem… Who veto’ed the mh17 resolution in UN?
As for flying in war zones, remember a Singapore Airlines jet was flying just about 5-10minutes behind the MH17 during the incident. I personally has flown over Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan for flights from Europe to south east Asia, it is a normal route for most airlines, not just malaysian.
The UN tribunal for suspects of mh17 is not what I was talking about.
I am talking about the framework idea that was implemented. (it was to include evidence from both sides) It just wasn’t used by the western powers. (because it called for evidence from all sides)
this investigation is a circus
1. ukraine was fighting against rebels
2. Evidence submitted by both rebels and Ukraine should not have been used
3. russia’s evidence should have been used (its a 3rd party)
4. US satellite data should be publisheduntill all this happens this whole investigation is BS, any report where poland is helping is automatically BS- they should have never participated due to their bias. UN should have done the investigation
The UN put forth a framework for the investigation that everyone agreed to but then the western authroties just scrapped it.