Aerodynamic ducts, Photoshop. S-duct arguments. Did some other forum shut down recently? The outbreak of stupidity and flame posting is at a new high.

You don’t think that there is an aerodynamic price to pay for more obvious S ducting ?

If the engines are canted down then it explains why you can see the front.

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So you think that the engines are pointing down ? They aren’t. It is known at every source that I’ve checked so far, that the pic which shows a fan a foot or 2 inside the airduct is photoshopped

There is simply no way that the front of the engine can be 2 feet from the end of the air opening.

What the hell difference does it make? They are what they are. We have all gone through this is circles. I think we are past that. What we should be concentrating is more photos, more new info, more milestones met.

Missiles is the next big topic.

Do you believe that you can see the engine from the front of the |Pak Fa ?

Jo is a well known schizophrenic who sees a bunch of made up things that don’t exist, and post a million different documents he doesn’t understand, thats why most of the russians laugh at him like JSR and KGB

there are no s-ducts on there. its straight through

He is right though. Those are not engine blades. They are vortex breakers.

lol. let’s say what you are saying is true and the designers of J-20 took those design elements from the planes you are listing. This can be at best called “inspiration” and the amalgamation of all these features from different planes means J-20 is indeed a unique design. There is no logic in what you are saying at all. ZERO. But go for it. This is internet after all. 😀

And by that, there is no logic in any of the claims made by Americans that Russia copied anything from the US. At least be consistent.

But please just look at this for a moment. Look at the over all size of the J 20 compared to both the Raptor and the Mig 1.44. Clearly the J 20 and the 1.44 are larger than the Raptor and identical in size to each other.

And then look at the shape of the wings. The angles are very similar to the Raptors and not to the 1.44’s.

And the J20 is “duplicate” of what? The BAE EAP?

Mig 1.44 platform

Raptor wings

F-35 nose and air intakes.

Russian engines.

BTW using the 1.44 platform was a smart thing to do. But it doesn’t work for a J 20 fan boy to mock Russia about it.

one thing for sure is the su-27 looks much more like the pak-fa than mig1.44 and j-20

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I am not sure how similar the Pak Fa airframe is to the SU 27 family but even so, how is that a bad thing ? The SU 27 100% proven. What could be a better platform to start with ?

Or should they make some new landing gear from scratch just for the F of it ?

When the Pak Fa is done, unlike the Raptor, it probably won’t be discontinued a few years out. They are building it right and it will be around for a long time