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It is the same as going naked in Western culture.. You can go naked public if your genitals are covered, it is not forbidden, but nobody does that because of fear being considered as wacko. Nobody asks whether you like it or not, your environment indirectly forces you to go dressed. That includes friends, parents, your partner, your colleagues, your boss, even your children.

Same with Afghan women.. If they really were given freedom of their own decisions, if they could get rid of their fear to step out of the line your 95% would immediately get rid of their heavy burqas, burn them and get something more apropriate. The fact is they were never given a chance to wear anything else so they get used to say that they ‘liked’ it. You can see that in Germany where many Turkish women who live either with parenmts or with Turkish husbands in closed Turkish comunities still wear their traditional clothes. OTOH, those who have married Germans wear completely different things.

BTW, I always wanted to ask about this, how do women bath in your culture? Are they allowed to be nude or do they need to stay veiled? Is husband allowed to join the bath with her or is this forbidden, too?

Altaugh its not disscusion about Afghanistan but let me clear it for you.

hehe it is the same as you say “if you give japanese women freedom they burn there kimonos! “
:rolleyes:

Thats the way of wearing clothes!
Thats our culture!
remember culture diffrences if you now go to Afghanistan and say : In west teen girls have to wear mini skirts to get more atttention from boys ! You will see there mouths open immediatly! they wonder what the hell is wrong with those girls in west!!

Burqa is what our women weared for many centuries even before Islam.
You want we just burn them because you wear over there in yankee lands diffrent clothes and we have to wear the same!!?? 😮

Taliban time was diffrent they forced women to wear it when they go outside but now women can wear or not its her own desision . There are some pressure from husbend brother side. but thats not with all families. And the same in communism time in Afghanistan they had there own freedom to wear it or not. But still they weared mostly.

And there are many diffrent kind of burqas.
In northern Afghanistan and centeral areas they wear those long ones.

In south they wear something named Shall often black color. that Shall is very common between Afghan Koochies.

And yes women take alone shower naked completely naked they even take there lingeria out ;).

And sure husbend can join and have fun with wife in bathroom often mornings because after action in bed before the morning Azan time or prayer time they have to clean there body .

Dude, you are such a joke.

The report on Iran Ghadr missile programme comes from the NCRI (or National Council of Resistance of Iran), a Paris based organisation, which is a political front for the terrorist group People’s Mudjahedin of Iran (I will let you check on the State Department why they appear on the US list of terrorist organisation, in the unlikely case you are not aware of who they are).

In other words, these reports are about as credible as those of Chalabi.

Now, if you dont find the reports of the Congressional Report Service or those of the US National Intelligence Council I postedcredible, what about you come up with credible alternative sources. And, btw, this does not include rantings by terrorist groups such as the NCRI, or some information dating back to the mid 1990s.

listen my freind

those reports are just an example.
You can read on Keihan or Etlaats which are pro Akhunda daily newspapers about those reports.

umm

Are you kidding me or what!! The info you provide on both Shahab 3 and 6 comes from the FAS section on missile, which has not been updated since the year 2000 (like most of the FAS website, given that John Pike moved on to create globalsecurity.org).

Do you understand that our estimates have changed since the year 2000, that the Shahab 3 has been inconclusively tested by the Iranians, that in all likelihood the Shahab 6 programme has never taken off.

All this info can be found in the reports issued by the Congressional Report Service (CRS Report for Congress: missile survey – Ballistic and Cruise missiles of selected countries (see report of 4 March 2004, update of July 2005).

You may also refer to the estimates from the “Current and Projected National Security Threats to the United States, Vice Admiral Lowell E. Jacoby, U.S. Navy Director, Defense Intelligence Agency, Testimony Before the Senate Intelligence Committee, 16 February 2005” which states that “we judge that Iran will have the technical capability to develop an ICBM by 2015. It is not clear whether Iran has decided to field such a missile.”

Don’t watch one side!
IF iran make a missile capable of hitting US you wont hear that info from U.S congress reports etc..nor from iran for some years.When i was In iran i raed many reports about progress of shahab missiles.and to be honest not actualy 100% sure they have it as you can read on my above texts I mentioned “If” but everything is possible with 60 bucks the price of oil 😉
and about shahab 3 it is already tested by them many many times maybe you better update your “database” .

And those missle project are controled mainly by Khamenaee the spiritual leader of iran so we won’t hear much about them unless some reports in there own medias.
but dont worry there is only 10% chance that U.S do an attck on iran.Even if U.S attack Iran has not much chance but that would cost U.S a lot.

umm

I don’t think they hit with missiles iraq and afghanistan instead they hit european countries. If ther Shahab 6 is ready its capable of hitting some parts of europe.
if they fire 100 missiles maybe 2 of them pass the def system!who knows?!
And as someone said some years ago “Oil is the blood of west” if iran keeps mining and hiting the The Strait of Hormuz then I don’t think This gonna have a good ending for both sides .A lot of job losses and economic disaster etc..

On militery side iran is does not have enough power to stand against super power U.S.

as for regime ( Akhunda ) now 90% of iranians are againt the current regime and are pro americans they like to drees like americans they like to behave like americans and westerns! if U.S attack they all going to love the current regime and hate U.S. and west. And thats what the leaders waiting for after attack they gain more popularity and power inside iran and because America cannot go into a full scale war with iran because iran has more population than iraq and much much bigger than iraq and almost a large army. The biggest in middle east go search if you don’t belive.

as for sanctions against Iran:
Iran has been many many years under sanctions 8 years war with iraq etc.. they call there surviver system ( Khud kefahi )it means “Self sufficienty” sorry for my bad english.They can build almost anything from tv to Pc and phone sim cards just name it.

@Sens You are just an angry kid thinking like movies 😉

I hope both side leaders think more wisely we live in 21sth century think about love unity and peace ( some of you laghing at this inside yourself right? ) Well because you never seen a real war and hunger and hard time to feel it.

The Americans would be stupid to attack Iran!they dont know how any war will go!Iran is not like Iraq they were starved by sanctions!plus their airforce is operational unlike the few planes iraq could muster!

Well if america attack they just will send some B2 bombers and hit the nuclear facilities and on other hand iran dosen’t have the power to hit back U.S .Unless they already made the nuclear warheads ready for There Shahab missiles.
For sure they not going into a full war with Iran.

I’m hoping that it does come to war, just for my amusement. Does that make me a bad person?

Lol
no thats ok man freedom of speech . But there going to be killed a lot of inocent people hwich is no right.

Ummm lol They Are working on Shahab 6!!

Source:http://www.fas.org

Shahab-6
IRSL-X-4

The Shahab-6 is expected to have a range of 5,470-5,500 and 5,632-6,200 kilometers with a 1,000-750-500 kilogram warhead. This range capability will depend on the number of stages used in the launch vehicle and their performance. December 1996 news reports claimed that Iran is developing a 3,500-mile (5,632 kilometers) range missile called Shahab-6 that would be capable of reaching Europe. The technology for this system was cited as coming from Russia and North Korea. Reportedly the missile would become operational by the year 2,000, though others reports claim that Iran intends to complete the development of this system within five to ten years. Presumably this missile will turn out to be a totally redesigned Taep’o-dong-2/NKSL-X-2 Iranian first stage derivation with new redesigned shorter larger diameter second and third stages.

Well dear Dubya I have lived 4 years of my life in Iran and about 1 year in Dubai U.A.E.
and many time in saudi arabia I have relatives there.
U.A.E has not more than 100 soldier ready to fight so its not wise to campare.
saudi arabia is just a name too sorry but its true.
Thats the U.S force there in Persian Golf otherwise Iran already occupied many of those countries in golf area.
Don’t belive things you hear or see in midea much of them are one way waves.
Iran is an industrial country can make Car, Airplan, and almost everything you can imagine.
But those 2 countries you mentioned they dont any any big intdustry they import almost everything.
I hope you go to some of those countries to see the real setuation.