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  • in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2596930
    Barbarian
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    Generally in their conduct of wars the US is very good. There will always be exceptions, such as Abu Ghraib or the Mai Lai massacre but these can usually be attributed to the faliure of command structures or simply poor behaviour of troops under stress. Very rarely does one see a policy decision taken that includes ‘barbaric acts’. On the other hand if you look at conduct during the second world war, most notably the RAF’s systematic destruction of German Citys, the Wermacht and SS conduct on the eastern front etc etc, of course that was a conflict very different in magnitude to the ones we have seen since 1945, but the point is that the US is actually very restrained in its use of violence when one considers what it has the potential to do.

    Well U.S new policy is : “Weakest-Richest”.

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2598886
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    Want to rephrase that into something coherent?

    Ok here is a revision for you :

    iran was too weak that time to answer cosider iran-iraq war.

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2598892
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    What, like they did when we shot down their Airbus? Oh wait…they didn’t do a damn thing…

    think you very very ill in hospital someone come and hit you on the face, you may answer only by words not more because u ill..

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2598897
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    Because the US won’t fight a war that way. They’ll want to have the Army ready in case the situation escalates and an invasion of some sort is needed. With all the assets tied up in Iraq right now, this probably isn’t the best time to do that.

    However, if they do it my way, all they really need is airpower. The trick is to make sure the reactors are operational before they’re bombed, though.

    umm I told hitting is easy but answering is hard an attack on Iran will make U.S go into a full scale war.

    btw Check tomorow news A.N. has some great news to say on tv.

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2598950
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    I am serious. What better way to demonstrate the vulnerability of your enemy and the inability of that nation’s leaders to defend their constituents by bombing high-use civillian targets? You don’t even have to consider them civillian targets in a nation like Iran. They vote for their President, so we’re attacking a political target, the electorate.

    Then why U.S are not attacking!! thats I think becaus e they afraid of outcome sure they can hit iran and kill but outcome would be unpredictable. And what if Iran has Nuke already! And they test one medium size nuke warhead in persian gulf!!

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2598961
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    Stay serious. The most important thing is to clearly demonstrate your own power and at the same time the vunerability of the opponent. Actually, if Iran had B-2s, they could easily do the same:
    – sent ONE bomber to New York
    – bomb 2 major powerplants (just take out transformer station)
    – await shutdown of whole electricity in North-East due to overload at other plants
    – bomb 10 key electricity lines around NY
    – see complete New York in darkness for at least a week
    – have achieved approximate economical damage of several billions without necessarily killing more than 20

    If you have surplus bombers, do the same with LA, SF and SEA. Please finish all porno and music downloads until then because there might be some unavailable servers.

    I think iran can hit those points without B2 . But what is the benefit? 10 billion economical damage? 20? 30? U.S is too rich that those moneys does not hurt it much in short term.

    If it goes to a full war I think iran may deploy some of its SF inside U.S so they do damages in diffrent sections in diffrent ways.

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2599515
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    So you have no problem then if Iran decided to send suicide bombers into shopping malls and sports arenas inside the USA tomorrow? I guess you’d have no argument with the USA then bombing apartments in Tehran or religious sites in Q’om in retaliation right?

    Killing another human being is wrong by all means!

    But not all people think like me!

    Well if you kill there people they kill yours thats the fact and if they can’t stand agaisnt you they use other methods Which you call terrorism and they Cal in iranians “Amaliate Shahadat talabane” in English “martyr operation” damn my English still sucks 😀

    and One other think Iran can do is Destroy all its oil fields and use its Shahab missiles or SF to destroy or damage neighboring countries oil fields that gonna make more damage to U.S in short terms than any other availble method for Iran.

    So what you guys think?

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2600128
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    Not gonna happen. With “just” conventional weapon terrorists can kill 5000, well, if they Allah help them – may be 15000 civilians over year. Still, that insignificant(yes, insignificant) amount of deads will only anger american socium – it will not make them surrender. In fact, thats the best thing terrorist can do from the POV of american goverment – it will only justify futher wars and restrirction of human rights. Anyone against war with Iran, Iraq, Syria, or Australia will be asked stright – “Are you helping these blooddy terrorists????” We can already see it after 9/11, but it will be 100 times worse. And, the worst part here, it will still not save Iran from being disintegrated.

    Umm whats the terroristic part of it? You kill There people they kills your people!

    :rolleyes:

    don’t kill and they don’t kill you!

    If i was instead of Mr. Bush I spend half of my militery budget on helping poor people! that way everyone almost loved america but what we see he use it on killing those poor people!

    Lets Build The world Instead of destrying it!

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2600142
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    ummm don’t think U.S do such mistake to ground attack iran!

    Also there is a group of special forces named ” fedahiane rahbar” That is a small almost secret group every member of this group is ready to die when Iran Leader say so ( Khameneii). and who knows maybe there are 100s of them operating inside U.S and U.K!

    If it was so easy U.S already destroyed those facilities!

    in reply to: Why does iran want nukes? #2600649
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    And steal oil? That’s a laugh. All we’ve done is rebuild and repair the oil infrastructure, we’re not taking the oil and selling it ourselves. Try and prove that one :rolleyes:

    Wow How sweet! 😀

    From when on you go attack a country then 10+ years sanctions ( dont say it was UN who impposed sanctions on iraq ! i think most of us know who run the UN ) then again attack, take the regime out, kill a lot of enemy/ innocents then began to build the / victim / countries infrastructure and oil fields ummm !? :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Why does iran want nukes? #2600655
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    And did you ever stop to think that the only reason things were bombed after DESERT STORM was in response to an Iraqi action?

    Iraqi action?
    and was occupation of iraq by americans too due to action of iraqis? 😀 or to steal oil and make reacher citizens!

    But go ahead, blame the big, bad USA for all of the world’s problems if it makes you feel better. I’d just hope you’re not being a complete and total hypocrite and buying American products on the side…

    who said usa is bad?! :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Why does iran want nukes? #2600720
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    Right back to the subject of Iranian nukes. what are some of the board members thoughts on how they will deliver their nukes? I personally think truck bomb or delivered in a shipping container in one of Israels ports.

    Kid grow up!
    Sitting on your broken wheelchair 16000 kilometers away from iran Dont talk nonsense!you neve been in iran u dont know more than what you hear on Cnn or BBC kinda American propaganda!

    What i see on your words are pure Hatred!

    and try to understand that that iran leaders are not so crazy to make the nuke bomb then hit israel with it ! well not ur fault u got brainwashed! feel sorry for you kid 😎

    in reply to: Why does iran want nukes? #2601218
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    wow these kids give some great respones – Barbarian says ‘nonsense’ to my post and thats it lol. oh sorry my grammer isnt perfect but then again i’m not really fussed about that. another response to my post was how bad the grammer was but the guy couldn’t actually come up with any sort of arguments against what i’d said. Kinda like trying to debate with a 12 year old, no wait a 12 year old could come up with decent answers to my post and not some lame comment like ‘nonsense’ cos he dosnt like what i’m saying. Ah i long for the day of a forum only open to adults and not kids. oops sorry i forgot the paragraphs my bad :diablo:

    Listen dude I answered you with reason ! And you think iran is making nuke bomb just to drop on israel!! haahaha :rolleyes: Think a bit you will get what I mean!

    in reply to: Why does iran want nukes? #2601302
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    Sheesh, just what is this forum about these days? Seems to me its become a anti Bush Blair hate fest and a pro-dictator love fest! Yeah saddam was a fantastic leader wasn’t he. (rolls eyes) I only wish i had lived under the fantastic Baathist goverment of Saddam for then i would truly have lived in a country ruled by the greatist leader of modern times. (sighs) Now back to Iran and its lust for atomic weaponry, and lets face it guys no amount of telling us they don’t want them is going to make any sane, rational person believe you.The evidence is almost over whelming in whats being developed. One name should be enough to make all of you realise this no matter what side of the fence your on, that name is Abdul Qadeer Khan. Now for those who don’t follow these things i suggest you go do some research on this man and his dealings with certain countries. Next i would say go research on Iranian statements about nuclear weapons and destroying Isreal, no not the famous speech that happened a few months back but all of the litterally hundreds of other times Iranian ministers and officials have said they will have the atom bomb. It may come as a shocker to some of you guys who only hear what mainstream media is telling you but Iran has been promising for many many years now to obliterate Israel with atomic weapons. Please save you breath arguing with me on this subject and use your mind to actually look up and find out about these statements. I am not here to argue but i feel some people are so blinded by anti Americanism that they cannot and will not see what is so perfectly clear to everyone else. I’m not jewish either so don’t think i am some Israel lover, I’m from the UK just before anyone starts screaming hatred in my direction. Look guys who do you think is really going to come out of this still standing when the Iranians aquire and use there new toys, i tell you for sure the people that will suffer more then any others will be the average decent Iranian. I’m sorry to dishearten you pro-Iranian anti American bunch but you leader is taking you down a path extremely similer to that which Adolf took Germany down. And please don’t tell me GWB is doing just that in Iraq for that argument is about the lamest most pathetic one going possibly only topped by the ‘its all for the oil’ mindless sort of commentry we hear. Oh for the record no millions died because of what we did in Iraq and please do not use the pathetic he never had WMD argument, he damn well did and the victims which were his own population were the ones that suffered more then anyone under the rule of that disgusting tyrant and his family, oh and don’t try that jaded old line ‘but we sold him the WMD because thats such a pathetic argument. Even if we had have armed him with WMD we did not make him use them on his own people! He took that decision, nobody else, not rumsfeild, not GWB, not Blair, but himself! Nobody forced his finger on the button as it were, he did it all of his own back. Ah then we have Kuwait and what his forces did to that country, i guess that was all our (the wests) fault like every thing else in the world is deemed to be today and not his own stupidity and gross underestimate of what happens when people misbehave. Iran is going down this same road but the end result my not be a three week ground war with the Goverment removed and the capital city stormed and taken as what happened to Saddam but this time it could mean Tehran and all the other wonderfull Iranian cities and surrounding areas are nothing but glass parking lots! I really do feel sorry for some people and the way they think the Iranian leader is a hero, hes simply leading you down his apocalytic road of doom unfortuantly. My hope is that the sensible Iranians will rise up and take the Islamic nutcase leaders out but i think its highly doubtfull considering the internal security forces are on a par if not worse them Saddams boys were meaning a brutal and very nasty put down to anyone who speaks out or trys to topple this idiot in power.

    Answer: nonsense

    Reason: If iran destroy with nuke israel So they destroy iran with nukes too! and I am sure that its not what iran want!

    in reply to: Why does iran want nukes? #2601331
    Barbarian
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    An example of what?

    :rolleyes:

    And example of killing innocent people!
    Maybe you have killed 5 millions there in iraq! there is no way you can proov that you have’nt! after watching those tortures and killings in medias i feel bad to call myself humen! Killing just like you play on video games!

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