Not being grumpy here but…….

So many stories with so little being done to prove/disprove them.

There have been dumping grounds that have been relatively recent excavated with interesting results, remember the Typhoon firewalls and assorted bits, the Spitfire at Kenley, Mossie bits at Little Snoring.

Go out and investigate and be surprised what you may find.

Cheers

Cees

Some of us are doing something about it. The cottage is booked and I will be pulling a sonar tow fish through a large body of fresh water. Not sure if I will find anything but as I have said many times before it’s my time to waste. I have some “incomplete” records (no it’s not the Lake of Mentieth) that three aircraft went in there but no records of a recovery so it’s time to look. If I find anything I will publish piccies.

Ali

Tom ,you have my sympathy. Self-appointed “experts”, of which there are many, are the bane of investigation of any sort.

I adopt the technique of reading it all and sorting out what is dross and what isn’t and go with that. There are a lot of real experts here and some of them contact via PM which is nice and I find that they are well worth listening to.

Ali

That’s what I meant 😀 😀 😀 Mark 😀 LMAO 😀 😀 😀

I don’t plan on bailing out of my spitfire any time soon though 😀 😀 😀 No-one to fly her home 😀 😀 😀

The best way to do it is by tandem. Tandems are good fun. Go for it but leave the Spit at home.

Ali 😎

I have no doubt in what you have posted but the example seems to be an unusual and perhaps seemingly one off, on an island for a crash site, not just a pile of old scrap on airfield dump.

Why is it they didn’t do the same thing everytime an aircraft crashed in a remote location such as the peak district crash sites?
Yes they would salvage some but the rest was left in situ…read the Dark Peak Wrecks books for the dozens of examples.

I would GUESS that in most cases, if an aircraft was wrecked at an airfield, if not straight away, they either used it as a hanger queen and then sent them to a proper scrappies afterwards.
For example Pulham St Mary in Norfolk was a huge aircraft scrapyard intended exactly for this purpose.
It just does not makes sense to have proper facilities put into place, to deal with such things and then not use them.
I would also guess that crashes that happened away from the airfields which did not ‘go in’, also found themselves in the same place.

Bomberboy

The point I was trying to make is that they have a habit of burying aircraft if not needed or unable to move them on. Getting rid of an aircraft on an airfield which couldn’t be sold for scap or got rid of the question is what’s stopping them from digging a hole and burying it? I think it’s highly unlikely that they would have buried an entire and intact lanc but piles of bits are quite conceivable. If the MU has a digger and a field where they have to get rid of it I would suggest that the digger would have been used to dig a hole and a bulldozer used to push the aircraft in. Then I would suggest the same bulldozer would be used to crush the aircraft into the hole.

Ali

I wouldn’t mind doing a parachute jump 😀 😀 😀 Mark 😀 Just as long as I have about 20 reserves (just incase I need over 15 of them 😀 😀 😀 )

Would love to help you out but I skydive. Parachuting is just the essential bit at the end. 😀

Ali
Air Cooled and Gravity Powered.

it still begs the question, why would you dismantle two big aircraft, cover them in hessian (implying some sort of protection) and then bury them?
surely they would have been disposed of to a scrappies, or if they were written off/damaged why bother covering them in hessian.
something doesn’t add up with this tale.

Did they have skips on those days? 😀

Ali

And backup dytter, I’ve often seen(in the past few years) camera jumpers with two dytters.

My jumps were quite a few years ago, all on 6 or 6.5m aerconicals, which as you says aren’t currently used. Got quite good at landing in the ‘pit’ even given their lack of directional control.
Currently recovering from badly broken arm from a flying accident. As soon as it’s fixed I will be jumping again, as will I be flying the (repaired) hang glider that nearly killed me back in June.

I have just one. It goes off at 4,000 to remind me that I’m going to have to do something quite soon. I have an AAD too which is always a must. I also have the good old wrist mounted Alti Master V. My main is a Saber 150 with a Micro Raven 150 reserve. I just love the performance of a ZP canopy. 😀 😀 😀

Ali

Thats what training does for you Ali. Worst it got for me was a couple of delayed openings, no real mals, just adds to the adrenaline. Must go jump again soon, just need to convert to these new-fangled square things!
There was a quite well known accident out in US somwhere with a cameraman, too preoccupied with his camera gear forget to put his rig on. Apparently he gets to opening height goes for the pull and nothing, realised what he hadnt done, rolls over onto his back and continues filming- the film ends.

Didn’t know anyone ever jumped round canopies any more. Except of course ejector seats (thought I would get that one in quickly).

There was a camera flyer at Eloy in Arizona who was filming a freestylist trainee and when he went above her to get a shot of her and the ground he saw where the ground was and pulled straight away and had a 10 second canopy ride and the freestylist just did lay over back loops straight into the ground. I wasn’t there when it happened as I had the day off for some sightseeing but reinforces the dytter arguement doesn’t it.

Ali