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  • in reply to: Croatian stealth(y) patrol boats for Libya #2053016
    Argo
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    All Yugoslavian military ships, and some other, mainly russian smaller ships were built in croatia. And there’s also the fact that croatia is currently the 4th largest shipbuilding country.
    Here’s another new croatian ship. This is a new small minehunter completely devoloped and constructed in Croatia, the LM-51 Korcula . She’s the first of some 4 ships of her class. She sailed just a few weeks ago. And all of the ship’s equipment is of domestic industry. It is also possible that this ship will soon be sold to some foreign navies(especially baltic countries), since interest has been expressed.
    Soon there shall be a major increase in our naval military industry, since our shipbuilding will soon move towards more expensive ships.

    in reply to: Croatian stealth(y) patrol boats for Libya #2053061
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    The ship class is named PV-30 LS. The deal with libya for now includes 2 ships of this new class. The project was chosen among other projects from england, france, spain, china and srbia&monetnegro. It is also rumoured that this patrol boat will soon be sold to another mediterranian country for their coast guard.
    As for Libya….we are somewhat in advantage here, since our current president is somewhat of a friend with gadafi, as he worked there as a manager of a yugoslavian company at the time 🙂 (I think he was also the first foreign statesman to visit libya in quite a time).
    The corvette design is still blurry. It is known for sure that it will be about 90-100 metres in length, will have a helo pad, and will be of a stealthy design somewhat similar to MEKO A100 design. Armament is not known, but I think the tradition of swedish armament will be continued on our ships(gripens are soon to come also).

    in reply to: YF-12/A-12/SR-71/MIG 25/MiG 31 thread #2574810
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    MiG-25M (Ye-266M) Development
    The 1972 directive ordering the service entry of
    the MiG-25RB, ‘RBK and ‘RBS also elaborated
    on the upgrade possibilities of the basic design.
    The military wanted an increase in range
    at low and medium altitude and an increase in
    ceiling and maximum speed.
    The Mach 2.83 speed limit imposed on the
    MiG-25 was purely theoretical, since the aircraft
    had the potential to go faster from the very start.
    High speeds reduced lateral stability and service
    life, but there were cases of pilots exceeding
    the speed limit without harming the aircraft.
    Therefore, the designers intended to reach a
    Mach 3.0-3.2 top speed so that the MiG-25
    could outperform its arch-rival, the SR-71A –
    the world’s fastest recce aircraft. This could be
    achieved by fitting the MiG-25 with more powerful
    and fuel-efficient engines.
    As far back as the early 1960s, a group of
    engine designers led by Shukhov and Rotmistrov
    proposed a comprehensive upgrade of
    the R15B-300 turbojet. The idea materialised as
    the uprated R15BF2-300, Izdelye 65M. The
    improvement in performance was achieved by
    adding a compressor stage and increasing the
    combustion chamber and turbine temperatures.
    As compared with the R15B-300, the
    R15BF2-300 had a lower specific fuel consumption,
    a higher thrust (10,000kgp/22,045lb
    st dry and 13,230 to 14,500kgp/29,166 to
    31,966lb st reheat) and a higher compressor
    pressure ratio (4.95 vs 4.75).
    The two engines were perfectly interchangeable,
    having identical dimensions and mount-
    ings. Providing the airframe was made more
    heat-resistant (that is, because of the higher
    turbine temperature), the new engines offered
    a substantial increase in rate of climb, ceiling,
    range and speed (up to 3,500km/h, or
    2,187mph).
    The Mikoyan OKB started a massive research
    effort with a view to increasing the MiG-25’s top
    speed, concentrating mainly on aerodynamic
    stability and airframe/engine thermal limits. The
    aircraft’s principal structure was made of steel
    and thus was heat-resistant enough. Some
    parts of the airframe, however, such as the
    radome and forward fuselage, wingtips, flaps
    and ailerons, were made of Duralumin and
    plastics. They were not subjected to significant
    structural loads but experienced high temperatures
    and had to be replaced with steel or titanium
    honeycomb structures. This, in turn, called
    for new technologies, Therefore the Mikoyan
    OKB suggested to split the work into two
    stages, ie, test and refine the engine on a structurally
    standard MiG-25 first and come back to
    the speed issue later.
    Both the WS and the Ministry of Aircraft
    Industry went along with this approach and
    gave the go-ahead for Stage 1. In September
    1964 the Ministry issued a directive detailing
    the test programme of the re-engined MiG-25.
    Yet the theoretical part, manufacturing and
    bench testing of the R15BF2-300 took longer
    than predicted, and flight tests did not begin
    until 1973. The VVS initially allotted a single
    MiG-25 for test purposes, which was later
    joined by a second aircraft.
    Aircraft No.1 was a MiG-25RB which was
    given a new factory number (f/n) 02-601, after
    being modified (hence the tactical number
    Blue 601′). Aircraft No.2 was a standard MiG-
    25PD built in 1973 (f/n 84019175) which made
    its first flight with standard engines on 12th
    June 1973 with Ostapenko at the controls.
    Later it was flown by Fedotov, Fastovets, Orlov
    and others.) On 30th August 1973 the aircraft
    received its intended R15BF2-300 engines,
    new c/n (841710) and the tactical number ‘Blue
    710′.
    From then on, the two aircraft served as testbeds
    for the new turbojet with the provisional
    designation MiG-25M (Modifitseerovannyy –
    modified). The conversion work was completed
    very quickly but refining the engine took a
    considerable time. Still, it was worth the sweat:
    the engine did produce the claimed performance.
    The service ceiling exceeded 24,200m
    (79,396ft) and supersonic cruise range was
    1,920km (1,200 miles) in clean condition or
    2,530km (1,581 miles) with a 5,300 litre (1,177
    Imp gallon) drop tank.
    The re-engined MiG-25 never entered production
    – for several reasons. First was the test
    programmes of two new aircraft, the MiG-25
    Izdelye 99 and the MiG-31, which also began in
    1975. Both aircraft were powered by the
    Solov’yov PS-30F (D-30F) engine with a similar
    rating but a lower specific fuel consumption
    (SFC). Second, the aero engine factories were
    tied up with other orders and could not produce
    the R15BF2-300. Finally, the PVO top command
    was more interested in the MiG-31 than
    in an upgrade of the existing MiG-25. Therefore,
    the MiG-25 programme was terminated.

    MiG-25 with Solov’yov PS-30F engines
    (Izdelye 99)

    The production MiG-25P interceptor fulfilled all
    design requirements except range. To increase
    range one MiG-25P was experimentally reengined
    with Solovyov PS-30F afterburning turbofans
    rated at 15,500kgp (34,170lb st). Also
    known as the D-30F, this engine was a derivative
    of the ‘pure’ D-30, rated at 6,800kgp
    (14,991lb st) which powered the Tupolev Tu-
    134 ‘Crusty’ airliner, not the much later and
    much larger D-30KU/D-30KP, which is a totally
    different engine. The test-bed was designated
    Izdelye 99 and appropriately coded ‘Blue 991’.
    Later, a MiG-25R was similarly converted and
    coded’Blue992′.
    Unlike the MiG-25M described above the
    new engines required major modifications to
    the airframe. Still, outwardly the aircraft was little
    different from standard MiG-25s and the
    internal fuel volume remained unchanged
    (19,700 litres/4,377 Imp gallons). The new turbofan
    was expected to improve rate of climb
    and especially range (particularly at subsonic
    speed) by virtue of a lower SFC. Besides, the
    same engine was selected to power the future
    MiG-31.
    A short while earlier, two MiG-25M test-beds
    powered by Tumansky R15BF2-300 turbojets
    had been evaluated, but there was no knowing
    if and when this engine would enter production.
    The new and fairly complex MiG-31 fighter
    weapons system could also take a long time
    testing. Thus, a MiG-25 fitted with the new fuelefficient
    engines could supplant the standard
    MiG-25PD on the Gorkii production line for a
    while until the MiG-31 would be ready.
    The scope of the Izdelye 99 programme was
    much larger than with the MiG-25M. However,
    with assistance from the Gorkii aircraft factory
    and due largely to the insistence of lead engineer
    M Proshin the technical problems were
    solved quickly enough. Shortly after test flights
    commenced a subsonic cruise range of
    3,000km (1,875 miles) without drop tanks was
    achieved. Supersonic flight, though, caused
    more problems.
    Normal take-off weight during tests was
    37,750kg (83,223lbs), including 15,270kg
    (33,664lb) of internal fuel; MTOW with drop
    tank was 42,520kg (93,738lb). Range was
    increased to 2,135km (1,334 miles) in supersonic
    cruise or 3,310km (2,068 miles) at transonic
    speed, and service ceiling was boosted
    to 21,900m (71,850ft).
    However, the MiG-31 was designed around
    the D-30F engine from the outset. And when
    the MiG-25MP, as the first prototype MiG-31
    was initially designated, entered flight test in
    the autumn of 1975, interest in the MiG-25/D-
    30F re-engining project waned. In fact, no one
    took the trouble to study the aircraft’s performance
    completely. The two modified aircraft
    were relegated to the role of engine test-beds
    under the MiG-31 development programme.

    MiG-25PA(Ye-155PA) Interceptor
    In the mid-1960s the Mikoyan OKB was working
    on an interceptor project referred to as the
    Ye-155PA. This aircraft was to be capable of
    destroying targets flying anywhere between
    100 and 30,000m (328 – 98,425 ft) at speeds of
    3,500 to 4,000km/h (2,187 – 2,500 mph). To this
    end, it was to be equipped with the brand-new
    ‘Smerch-100’ radar, later renamed ‘Zaslon’
    (Shield), and armed with the equally new R-100
    missiles. The powerplant consisted of two
    R15BV-300 turbojets with an improved high
    altitude performance (Vysotnyy – high altitude)
    which would take the aircraft to Mach 3.5.
    Later, the requirements changed, especially
    regarding speed, and the project was discontinued.

    Well, judging by this projects, the soviets had the choice of increasing the MiGs top speed , and even prolonging supersonic flight, but they choosed not to. So, I guees they were pleased with what they had.

    in reply to: Show us those interception pictures! #2576478
    Argo
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    Strangely, not one photo of the foxbat or foxhound. They were interceptors, shurely they were interecpting aircrafts besides the ”elusive” SR-71? And yet, I haven’t seen a single photo of any foxbat/foxhound while intercepting foreign aircrafts. Here’s a nice refueling photo…

    in reply to: Mig-21 and Mig-29 at Batajnica AB – new photos #2590315
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    well….I’m not living in Serbia, so I really don’t care, since I don’t pay taxes I’m not to decide.
    But I don’t think there will be a true need for a 40 million$ jet fighters in the foreseeable future.
    From my standpoint, you’re rather lucky having a decent number of G-4 airframes. With some modifications and upgrades, and in somewhat larger numbers, they should be able to meet any future needs. And frankly, there’s still some room for improvement on the J-22. More powerful engines, for example, and you could have a supersonic jet(offcourse, with extra aerodynamical modifications).

    in reply to: Mig-21 and Mig-29 at Batajnica AB – new photos #2590474
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    Well,the final answer to the question of the number and type of the future serbian aircrafts will be given only when the question of Kosovo and Montenegro is resolved.
    Serbia alone is 88 361 km2(if you count in Kosovo at around 10 000 km2), which is comparable to Croatia(if you count in the sea), so if we are getting along with 12-at first(?or F-16, total number would be around 24 I guess) Grippens, I suppose you could live with a similar number of aircrafts. Anything beyond that number will be a complete waste of money which could be better spent.
    BTW, I also think that neither Croatia or Serbia should invest that kind of money just for the fun of having modern fighters, but regretebly I’m not to decide.
    We could also talk about the possibility of a Montenegro’s AF…that is going to be interesting, if they choose independence…

    in reply to: Mi-24 Hind #2591799
    Argo
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    Croatian Hinds

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2600688
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    Sorry, my mistake, I was writing in a hurry…

    Iran, of course. That is assuming they would be in a possesion of such device. But anyway, what effect would it create?

    in reply to: How would you bring down a B-2? #2600696
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    How bout Nikola Tesla’s beams of death 😀 ?

    Its been said that he came up with a design of a weapon capable of destroying entire squadrons flying in the air, aswell as balistic rockets, stealth or no stealth. It was in his late years, when he was quite poor, so he decided to offer his design for sale. It is rumoured that he offered it to Yugoslavia, for 500 dinars(cheeaaap 🙂 ), but they turned him down, beliveing that he became crazy. I wonder what has become of his manuscripts that were taken by the FBI the very day he died….

    back on the subject? What kind of a effect would have if they would detonate a nuclear device in a suborbital trajectory, wright above the planes?

    in reply to: your country armed forces your way #2601738
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    This sounds pretty sensible to me. Although I think that it would be worth having a squadron or two of fast jets to provide air-policing and to perform as a deterrent to regional rivals (they could also buzz past people on the beaches during tourist season to give them a thrill*). Also, surely the army could do with some sort of CAS aircraft to support their actions in the field (should it be required) – perhaps L-159s or similar would be suitable. Finally, is Croatia still thinking of getting some Be-200s for the firefighting role? I hope they are – it would be an effective aircraft in this role and its so good to look at too.

    * A friend of mine said two Croatian AF ’21s buzzed the beach he was on last year at an altitude of about 200ft – he loved it!

    I think Be-200s are out of the question. They changed their mind and now we will probably get around 15-17 new Mi-17s. Which I don’t think is a good deal, since I’ve heard from Mi-8 pilots they are not the best choice for search and rescue missions, and they are huge.
    As for the jets, I don’t see why Croatia should keep them in service: There are no regional rivals in sight. Maybe Italy 😀 . And I think it would be too expensive to maintain 2 squadrons of F-16s just for the thrill of it:)
    BTW, does anyone have any picture of the Croatian UAV that was used during and after the war? Its a small turbo-prop, I can’t find it anywhere. I watched a documentary about it some 4-5 years ago and remembered it just yesterday.
    I think Croatia should mainly concern with its navy and coast guard. A sum of around 100 boats and ships is said to enter the coast guard(soon to be established), some of it newly built. We’ll see what the future holds for us.

    in reply to: your country armed forces your way #2601787
    Argo
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    For Croatia

    – sell, burn or sink the entire fleet of MiGs-21.
    – buy some 15-20 helicopters for SAR and other navy/police/coast-guard/firedept missions
    – do NOT buy used F-16s from Belgium or any other.
    – invest the money that would be spent for purchasing F-16s to a UAV project(which was operational during the war. I can’t find a single picture on the internet)
    – burn or give away three missile gunboats that are currently in service.
    – build coast-guard boats.
    – enhance coastal ssm-s and sam-s
    – decommision the sub
    – buy and build the Degman
    – professional army of some 20 000- 25 000 units(btw, this is what is going to happen in a year or two, but anyway…)
    – buy more Canadairs for fire dept.(this maybe isn’t a army issue, but still)

    in reply to: Lets see some mini/small carriers #2058013
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    Why are there no catamaran aircraft carriers? Assuming that they offer more space, speed and stability, one would asume that they would be ideal for aircraft operations, yet I haven’t seen any. Why? Maybe the price? Navy traditon?

    And also, are there any carriers that are used to launch UAVs?

    in reply to: Army/Navy subfora issues thread #2604575
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    there were excelent threads posted on the navy forum, too bad they are all gone. I wish that webmaster reconsiders his decision.

    BTW, does anyone know any good WW1 & WW2 navy forums?

    in reply to: Mig-21 pics of ALL user countries #2599214
    Argo
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    here’s a nice picture of Croatian MiGs flying along wwith two F-16s(don’t know if it has been posted before)

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