Out of the 108 aircraft, at least 40 will arrive from France, in the form of kits etc. If the number goes up to 189 and the IAF asks for quick delivery, as they did with the Su30MKI, then the number of kits could go up to 60-70 airframes, with the rest of the 110 built with Indian materials.

All in all, the French companies will receive a windfall from this deal, not to mention the huge moolah they will make off spares for the initial 10 odd years, plus the weaponry and ground handling equipment.

Thales, Safran and Dassault execs are all probably chuckling to themselves over how 2012 has turned out for them.

Out of the 108 aircraft at least 40 will arrive from France?? are you sure?
is there any link confirming this?

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I remember Airbus getting very upset by Air India’s evaluation criteria when Air India selected Boeing 787 in preference to Airbus A350. Airbus threatened to take them to court, I think. Some years later Air India has a number of B787’s on order and zero A350’s on order.

Well ,Air France have selected Boeing 787 as well !!! Unfortunately the French companies have a celebrated tradition of filling lawsuits when they lose lucrative contracts.. Remember the Eurotunnel competition two years ago when the French managed Eurotunnel company chose Siemens high speed trains and dropped their own TGV, they went to court in London and got their butts kicked there . It was humiliating for Alstom .

You may be right, i wasn’t taking setting up factory and all that involve into account, but over 40 years the operational cost makes up and surpasses just about anything.
On the weapons didn’t someone just post on integrating JDAM & AMRAAM C7 on Rafale ?

If these additional 80 fighters are US made, they will come straight from the assembly line of the manufacturer. It is insane to set up a second assembly line for 80 fighters. Its much cheaper to buy them directly. But I dont think India will consider something else than the Rafale.

This was related to exports only. I see that I wasn’t clear enough on that.

Saab has thus far secured contracts for 90 Gripens:
South Africa: 28
Czech Republic : 14
Hungary : 14
Thailand : 12
Switzerland : 22 (contract not signed yet)

Eurofighter has secured orders for 87 aircraft:
Austria : 15
Saudi Arabia : 72

We have to take into account that the exports of Gripens and Typhoons also account for national orders as well. The Swedes ordered 204 Gripens, but are operating 100 only. Hungary and the Czech republic have leased aircraft only as far as I know and the UK has reduced its order for Typhoons by a number equivalent to the sale to Saudi Arabia. Wrt the Eurofighter programme there are only 559 aircraft on contract. Additional orders might be secured from international customers, but the core nations won’t buy any additional aircraft according current plans and there isn’t too much room to change that decision.

O.K Thanks ..

Within a single throw the Rafale will now overtake the Typhoon and the Gripen when it comes to the number of aircraft being sold,

I am sorry but I don’t understand how you come to this conclusion.
If you take the combined orders from 4 partners and add 72 for the Saudis and 15 for Austria you should be able to arrive at something like 700 + units for Typhoon if I am not mistaken

As far as the Rafale is concerned ,we have a total 294 orders or in other words, commitments from France so far + 126 for India makes ????
Do I make a serious mistake in math?

Forgot about his crazy “Italian-French connection hence Rafale shall win” conspiracy theory ? On the flipside, having been a professor of economics at Harvard he might have made a killing with Dassault shares in the last few hours 😉

Dassault is owned by EADS 46% and Dassault family 51% so who holds the remaining shares ?? a privileged few perhaps..I don’t think Dassault shares are available to an ordinary investor..

Rose more than 22% to the highest in 22 years. Hmm. Maybe, but the repeated number is suspicious. Particularly when the article goes on to tell us that the Rafale will be replacing Mirage 2Ks in Indian service. :rolleyes:

This is very good for Dassault of course but a win in UAE (60) and Switzerland (22) would have made Dassault much happier as these 82 fighters would be entirely manufactured in France.