Got some specific questions and would appreciate some replies thanks.

1) Are Pakistans new f-16’s blk 52’s DFRM equipped. Same for the MLU’s. Without them they might still be susceptible to jamming. Especially since IAF jammers and pods are in widespread use?

From what i have heard DRFM is used in jamming adversary’s signal by recording/replaying it out of phase and not in countering the other side’s jamming (ECCM) as you seem to be suggesting. PAF has older and will get latest ALQ series jammers for F-16s. I believe Block-52 will have that onboard in the spine if i m not wrong. When both sides use jamming usually that results in merge and WVR since both aircrafts have to go inside the burn through range of their radar to get a track for firing solution.

2) What are the conditions that Pakistan has accepted on their F-16 use. Last i heard they need to check with the US if they are to leave Pakistan airspace. Supposedly they are to be maintained in a new AF base and monitored constantly?

I believe they are no different than what are already imposed on earlier PAF F-16s and other US customers. I believe similar restrictions will be applied on P-8 I (correct me if i m wrong).
The AF base is not US restriction but something that is convenient for PAF as US restrictions involve inspections and inventory count. That said however, i doubt any nation not just pakistan will worry too much about restrictions when involved in war. Sanctions are given during Indo-Pak war scenario regardless of how F-16s will be used. Don’t see if there is any other leverage besides that.

Good to see that Pakistanis still have faith in the US to provide most of it’s frontline systems. What with issues over the Kerry Lugar bill and it’s ongoing situation i was thinking the present situation isn’t all that rosy.

I think F-16 numbers have been reduced from what was initially planned and most of PAF’s inventory will consist of JF-17 and FC-20s.

I don’t know how accurate this news is(from daily mail) but i certainly found it amusing. Particularly the picture of guy in yellow shirt 😀

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1189577/Muslim-extremists-anti-war-protest-driven-members-community.html

Whats the point of having one or two PAF F-16s as Have Glass & the rest not, it’d be more straightforward to standardize. If that were the case, then it should be relatively straightforward to have recent pics of most PAF F-16s with similar canopies.

I am not sure what is the reason they don’t have it on all PAF F-16s. We can only guess. Could it be that they are used sparingly and for normal tarining missions non-treated canopies are used. Does USA or other F-16 operators have it on every machine they fly? I can at least vouch for USAF where it is not on every single viper.

Secondly you are clearly shifting the goal post here. First you said something like treated canopy is not cleared for export to PAF. If that was the case you wouldn’t have it on a single PAF F-16 and even if Pakistan had done something secretive they wouldn’t be publishing its photo so openly.

As far as g2g’s post is concerned i would rather hear what he has to say. I have posted yet another pic with half tint on two seater. I have other pictures if you are interested. Interestingly on the embargoed PAF machines that are being used by Navy for aggresor training. 😉

My 2 cents and last post on this subjective, i’ll let others make up their mind.

source please.

I believe the book that details PAF’s years through 90s (the one before Alan Warnes latest version) has exact numbers of Pakistani engineers/technicians in K-8 program in which Pakistani participation was 25%( financial ). If i am not wrong it puts total numbers close to hundred(anyone can correct me if i am wrong). I would not doubt that it is more than that in case of JF-17 which was a much more high profile project for PAF.
Also you have to keep in mind that JF-17 project involved things which were ground breaking even for the Chinese. A new MMI for the cockpit, DSI (which was authorized back in 2000 ),open avionics architecture, hybrid FBW (Chinese were working on full FBW for J-10 at the same time) etc. So we can safely assume that Pakistani side involved with the program would have seen and taken part in these things from the beginning to the end. And these are the things which were not mere repetition on Chinese part due to their’ as you put it, reverse engineering experience with Soviet technology.
A picture to chew on.

This could be a photographic artifact, especially since the Viper in the back appears to have no such glint/tint on its canopy.

Do you have any more pictures to corraborate, this is not a one off.

I never said that all PAF F-16s canopys’ are ‘have glass’ versions. How this could be a photographic artifact is beyond me though. It doesn’t get any more clear than this.

What gtg posted could be an example of photographic artifact because it seems to be a little lighter. But even then there are pictures of twin seaters where only the front is tinted.

Is that not yellow because it got old ? The Iraqi Migs in Serbia has a better tint :diablo:

yeloooo from haldi masala onleee :dev2:

wokay!

There is no evidence on the existence of navalised Babur. You example is something similar to”we have Honda City so we need not modify the motor cycle.” Absolutely makes not sense.

Man you need to make up your mind. First you said Babur and a modified Harpoon for land attack are exclusive. Then you say Naval Babur is unheard of. If you had done a little seraching there were plenty of official statements which have stated that naval babur is in works.

I don’t think i will be able to convince you otherwise though for obvious reasons :diablo:

So why is it claimed that when you have Babur LACM, why would you modify harpoon? I actually don’t understand the logic.

Because the accusation states Pakistan converted Harpoon into Land attack missile which is Babur’s role.

As for the other artistic and very creative explanations from Austin,matt and Nick i think Nick is in pole position 😀
Wait for the fat lady to sing though. SOC might drop in and bring South African UAV connection… :p