IF Norway Will but 56 aircraft, 4 Will be based in US so only 52 available for norwegian/ north european safety. MSphere’s Numbers makes more sense than Eskodas.
I hope that we will be able to return to the Norwegian 2008 evaluation again within a year or two. It is a good practice to track the accuracy of old statements to predict the reliability of present claims.
Similar problem for Navy, 5 Corvettes prepared for SAM but not decided, financed or installed. Currently Navy only has 57 and 40mm AAA on corvettes and mine sweepers.
The Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile to iHAWK would add range and speed but the fixed radar would still be nice target for ARM’s.
AMRAAM would be fast and cheap fix, Air Force has decent amount of AMRAAM B and new meteors will come this year. What equipment I required for data links to the AMRAAM?
Tomorrow its 6 years since I started to follow this forum and tomorrow its 6 years since Jens Stoltenberg declared that Norway was to pick JSF rather than Gripen, apparently it was much cheaper and better too. Actually the F35 was so affordable that the Life Cycle Cost of F35 would be lower than Gripen even if the Gripens was given to Norway for free.
Thnx for that backstabbing but perhaps time for a reality check now? 🙂
Its also nice to note the trend over the years, back then Gripen was very much an outsider rarely mentioned. Today its likely to be the last western 4++gen fighter to stay in production. Quite different to the “few dozens” that Jens mentioned…
#posts in this thread over the years
2010 150 posts
2011:75 posts
2012:300posts
2013:770posts
2014:670posts today and still counting
Lets hope that the positive trend continues in the years to come!
Meteor for Gen 4+ Aircraft is most useful also against “5th”gen opponents. The Meteor equipped Aircraft will get sensor information from lots of different sources, other fighters, AEW, ground or ship based radars, passive, future “”5th gen”” UAV’s will have an RCS &IR signature several magnitudes better than manned “5th gen fighters”.
Meteor will allow many interesting tactics, first 4+gen fighters could have light loads like 2IRAAM, and keep heavy loaded shooters well behind/above but still have superior missile PK’s compared to opposition.
Gripen deal ready & signed in Brazil 🙂
source in Swedish, http://www.di.se/artiklar/2014/10/27/saabs-jatteaffar-ar-klar/
You all fail to consider that 100 000thousand Swedes live in UK/London, UK is one of Swedens biggest trading partners, and a key NATO country that would would be a nice ally against an increasingly agressive Russia. It’s just unthinkable that Sweden would “back stab” UK.
I strongly doubt that Sweden would even like to sell to Argentina unless UK/US agree.
LOI signed between Slovakia and Sweden, hopefully orders will follow. http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/119/a/245682
This info is clearly related to Gripen NG with most pictures/drawings showing the Demo aircraft. I really hope that the Gripen E didn’t gain 1,3 t of weight despite having a lighter airframe. SAAB managed to send a very bad & confusing message.
As expected Sweden will not use the exit clausal in the purchase contract of 60 Gripen E, despite that Swiss outcome. Source in Swedish http://www.svt.se/nyheter/val2014/regeringen-ger-klartecken-for-nya-jas-plan
First pictures of mockup of Gripen E final configuration
http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/forsta-bilderna-pa-nya-gripenmodellen_3756212.svd?sidan=1
The only differences from the Demo that I spot are;
At the base of the canards
PAWS II demands bigger “bulges” than the MAWS 300 of the Demo
Base of tail fin
There is a new air inlet
I can not spot any RCS reducing measures.
@halloweene, from F35 thread regarding operating costs and fuel;
No Gripen C/D use “commercial” fuel. But i think Gripen E should use standard JPsmthing with F-414″
I’ve not seen any public information but I think that Gripen E and its F414G engine is most likely to run JP8 as well, I cant see how SWAF (and other potential C/D-F)would run 2 types of fuel parallel over very long time.
That chart is a joke and shows no proportion with figures produced by Jane’s with respect to operational costs. E.g. F-35 ($31,000/hour estimated) should be about twice as far to the right as Rafale and Typhoon (~$16,000/hour), i.e. off edge of chart. F-22 should be off the chart completely to the right ($44,000/hour).
Note that they say the $8,200/hour for the Typhoon is only fuel, but somehow the Gripen fits fuel and maintenance in $4,700/hour, implying maintenance costs of ~$500/hour, which is probably less than some BMWs.:stupid: SAAB LOL, even the Swedish people rejected them.
Do the different aircrafts above use the same fuel..? What about cost /litre of those? Does anyone here know about cost/liter?