You got to lose those thrust vectors, I still don’t believe in 4 engines. You should define the role of the aircraft before you spend so much time on the design.
Swedish Gripen E’s will be 100% new
The Swedish Gripens E’s will be completely new built. As previously mention in this forum the real difference is small but now its apparently politically acceptable.
I presume this will also make more C/D airframes available for lease.
Source in Swedish
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=5829232
In many ways I like your idea but my feedback is;
Stick to 2*J85, it will be to difficult to maintain more
Make a aerodynamically stable design, the FCS and pilot training (2nd tier or reservists) will be a lot easier
Internal or conformal bay with 2 Mica IR is more than enough+ 2 wingtip AAM
Canard design will allow slow min speed/long loiter time as well as good trans/supersonic
Go for low wing loading
No radar or the size of a BVR missile and only to verify distance of localized targets and to aim internal gun
Internal gun 20mm?
IRSOT
IR MAVS
Decent RWR
Limited flares/chaff/ active jammer
Fixed refueling probe
Good networking
1 wet station
Performance
Limited payload
Maximize fuel fraction and minimize wing loading
Moderately supersonic but should have low drag in the 0,8-1,4 Mach area
Operational concept
Intercept incoming enemy or loiter at high altitude over friendly territory
Well networked to ground stations and “bigger brothers”
Hang around at high altitude, slow speed and dive intercept (gain speed and reach) its main targets of attack aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles, stand off munitions, decoys, UACVS.
….and with the favourite aviation show pleaser Mig-29 !
Wit the 6.8 m2 frontal area Mig is 2.66 times bigger than A4SF-1G ( new name ) !
Your design is way too ambitious, and cockpit seems very, very small.
Here is some support to help you recruit pilots….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_restricted_growth_organisations_around_the_world
What about a cross over between JF17/MIG 21 and a F117? Very light, cheap tin can?
@Agrippa, the EW suite will be very interesting to learn more about, but the lack of enthusiasm for this is very much SAABs fault. Very, very little is known about the system.
Czech lease of 14 Gripen C/D will be extended until 2026, negotiations closed but contract not signed. Source in Swedish
http://www.di.se/artiklar/2014/3/12/tjeckien-forlanger-gripen-avtalet/
“There is no reason to employ active EW on a LO airframe when you can use other assets”.
Agreed but, you must have those assets, small nations take notice.
“Capability” is multi dimensional not one dimension.
No doubt F35 will take sensor fusion to a new level, good sensors and will feature an excellent stealth.
My worst doubts of F35 would be,
To expensive to buy and run, poor availability, to difficult to maintain, NO INTERNAL JAMMER except radar, 1 fixed forward AESA array poor fov, too small internal AA load, interceptor wise poor flight performance (light load/high altitude), wrong political signal to your neighbours (I’m the attacker).
@Loke,
“An important part of manning those ships are to find people that are willing to man them! Currently the Norwegian economy is quite strong, good jobs are in general not too hard to find for well qualified people, and the navy cannot compete with salaries in private companies”.
Just pay market salary and you have the crew for the Norwegian Frigates. Seamen & pilots need years of training to become operational, stay cheap and you only get one crew..
@Loke regarding the situation in Norway
Have money = willing to spend..?
Don’t forget to tell the guys in your navy 😉
Having 5 ships and 1 possibly 2 is manned due to cost reasons. I expect a lot of army/navy projects to stand back in order to get the F35, “Archer” was only be the beginning.
Some basic corrections,
TIDLS is connecting 4 fighters all the way back to 1997 and before, does any one have any information about the limit of the new direction links? Love to see that!
More BS in Poland report, 40% of Polands choice based on performance at that time more than a decade ago a Gripen A with a C/D plans was rated as this quote “After all, neither the French Mirage 2000-5 nor the Gripen are inferior.”
Everybody knows that Gripen design is taking the easy way out in many ways, but it also has many strong points, in some ways far superior to the F35. Its funny to see that a lot of posters just cant take that part!
The fate of the 204 Gripens ordered by Sweden, (26 new built for South Africa not included)
88 in service
32 disassembled and partially destroyed (2 A/B’s for 1 D)
28 Leased to Hungary /Czech
24 in storage
12 sold to Thailand
10 to be rebuild from A/B to C/D
4 crashed
4 used for demonstrators
2 donated to museums
Source in Swedish
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/fordon_motor/flygplan/article3806241.ece
“Apps” “YES”… I think this is quite important…. open source environment versus uncle Sam total dependency and lack of flexibility
“What mission is it exactly that you can’t do with X no. of F-35s, can do with Y no. of Gripens, but can’t do with Z no. of lower cost aircraft?”
Just get in the air.
Expensive & complicated aircraft operating on 1 airfield, will never start. F35 main merit is attack so opponent will make sure they act first.