…I’d overlooked the Pirate !:o
Touche ! Bager, think we all anticipated this…. it’s a lovely photograph of a very business-like looking aircraft.;) – even if it is stretching a point, it floats my boat!
You asked for it…
PB4Y-2 Privateer
Here’s the other photo Baz, credit to ‘Spitfire The History.’ Brian
Spitfire photo query
I’ve had a play around with the photo to see if a negative image improves clarity : here’s what I came up with (I think the underlining is relevant in the chalk marks) ————–
Filter Clear
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Plugs Check =
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Engine
Fina- E
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Level
OK
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(Initial ?) But agreed, Fina may hold the definitive answer.
You can express your views on this shambles to the NMRM (National Museum of the Royal Navy) through the following link
It is worth noting that in the drop-down contact box on the NMRN site the final Enquiry type* lists ‘Volunteering’. They may have a more straightforward and less complicated version of the definition, perhaps at odds with Mr Mottram’s understanding of the interpretation.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]233653[/ATTACH]Like all the other contributors I am so disappointed, nay, annoyed that some sad ‘jobsworth’ with total lack of vision has sought to endanger (and perhaps to end) the valuable restoration work on the ‘Barra’ by this pedantic and in my view, totally unreasonable and unmerited intervention.This sort of petty behaviour could only happen in the UK it would seem , but perhaps the individual (and it has to be one sad over-officious) who dreamt up this selfish idea could be made to justify his action and explain to us ‘plebs’ the real reasoning behind the stupid,spiteful ruling. I had so hoped to see the successful outcome of the restoration, that sense will prevail to enable the continuance of the project, to reward, if nothing else ,the dedication and skill of the team of lads and lasses who have done such unselfish work over the months to realise such a worthy project as an honour and memorial to all who flew, and lost their lives, in the Fleet Air Arm.Is this what it has come to? blocked by some priggish shortsighted individuals? Do the right thing people, you know you want to. Climb out of your stuffy boxes and think how you can help, not hinder. Brian S.
PS…I’m not too fussed about seeing yet one more Spitfire!
I remember buying this little book, produced on behalf of Shell Aviation : the paintings are by Roy Cross, and it cost 2/6d then (Quite a high price for pocket-money =12.5P) but still on my bookshelves to this day : the paintings still as good as they ever were, and did much to foster this (then)youngster’s lifelong love of aviation.
I agree (for what that’s worth!) with Moggy and the others above : have looked and admired the Spitfire sculptures, knowing the provenance of them should be satisfying and pleasureable, but I have done no more than look for the finished results are bound to be too rich for me ! Brian S.
Missing Malaysian Airlines B777
I have read this forum since the desperate saga was started, many of the comments have been authoritative and beyond mere speculation, others have been just that, speculation and guesswork, but it would appear that the debris field spotted by the French satellite would sadly appear to be of the missing airliner. It will not be known until a vessel or vessels reach that area, when positive identification can be made. Sadly there is, I should speculate, a possibility of casualties on the surface amongst the wreckage. In view of the work done in the past on finding the ‘Titanic’ and ‘Bismarck’ , albeit in comparatively ‘shallow’ waters, unlike the vast depth of one of the planet’s deepest oceans, surely it is not beyond possibilty to further narrow the search area, given the duration of the flight,the possible ‘end’ defined by a circle of probability,and by an analysis of the weather conditions and current movements indicate how far the debris field would have drifted from the impact area at the time of the ‘crash’? All the worlds oceans have more than their share of flotsam and jetsam but the recent amount plotted would seem rather more ominous, and given the limited battery life of the FDR power supply it would appear vital to recover it as soon as feasible : how that is done, I leave to the experts in that field, but surely technical advances in the area of search and recovery must give some slight hope for the location of the wreckage, which it must needs be, now. RIP all the lost souls, and comfort to their families and friends : we must never overlook or minimise the true tragedy of this event. Whether it will ever be solved, your guess is as good as mine.
The collective naivety and admiration for aviation pioneers such as Amelia Earhart and Amy Johnston that long ago existed has sadly been replaced with a cynicism and mockery in our ‘enlightened’ times. Martin Shaw may yet regret the term of ‘insanity’ applied to Ms Vorderman as we hear of her proposed venture. What does one do with a newly acquired PPL…show aunt Nellie her home from 1500 feet, take friends on local jollies until the novelty wears off? Good luck to her I say, she would appear to have someone with higher credentials than many as an accompanying participant, the modern technology has got to provide better guidance than an alcoholic (allegedly) navigator who accompanied Earhart. It is not a venture to be lightly considered or ill-thought out, but my fear in the political climate that sadly pervades our sick society is that she may no longer be greeted by awestruck tribal elders wherever she touches down, but rather by terrorists and kidnappers seeking to gain from her notoriety . Good luck Carol, I look forward to the documentary film when you’re done!
(And as a post script may I add that I too am not a great fan of the lady either as a celebrity or personality, merely admire her pluck : sponsorship, which inevitably will be sought, does not go to shrinking violets, but to those who push themselves forward, yet sadly by doing so then tend to encourage the ‘tall poppy’ syndrome that some Brits seem to relish!)
Was typing my piece as Ross posted above : he confirms East Haven as a Barracuda source (one of several such incidents, I feel) Brian S
Other areas which had offshore Barracudas crash/ditch would be off Lunan Bay, north of Arbroath, and also offshore near East Haven, (HMS Peewit) south of Arbroath. Lunan Bay area was a practice bombing area, and a number of Barracuda squadrons were based at Peewit for training and ADDL practice. Both areas were subject to intensive trawl fishing since the war years, and many nets were damaged by snagging on sunken aircraft wreckage. I well remember a Pegasus engine complete with propellor from a Swordfish being recovered in a Seine net by a local fishing boat.This sat at the local harbour for some time after recovery. Whether anything would be worth salvaging after all the years of salt-water immersion and damage as described above is doubtful, but I would suggest an extensive search of both areas might be productive, if both funds and time were available. Brian S.
Pistonrob, very creditable work, and I’ve only just read the threads so it might have been better if I’d pointed this out at an earlier stage, but too late : you’ve gone for a view of the aircraft from a position above, behind and slightly to the right of the subject. Imagine holding a camera looking at the subject from this viewpoint then the light source (looks like a watery sun) would have the rays albeit diffused and weak, pointing directly towards the camera lens (or your eyes if you’d rather), not angled (ever so slightly to the left of the picture) as you have done. I had something similar pointed out to me many moons ago and it stuck, as well as the admonition from an art tutor that ‘You’ll never make any money painting aircraft!’ Excellent work in progress, and forgive a somewhat pedantic critique, wishing to encourage not dishearten.;)
Thank you all for your kind comments, it makes my efforts worthwhile! Any more forthcoming will have to be from others however, I think another four-year gestation period on a new project would be rather daunting. The Barra is under an acrylic cover now, as the dusting round the aerials and other fiddly projections used to create a never ending round of getting the glue pot out, despite how careful I tried to be with the camel hair brushes! 🙂 Brian
I must admit I thought some of these hook ends were generic across some FAA types.
Would agree with James about the universality of these hooks :it would make sound economic sense to mass produce them for use on several types of aircraft, and the rigours of deck landings and wire traps would cause fairly heavy wear necessitating unscrewing and replacement.(Visualise the sparks from the steel deck when the wire was engaged).
The digits will be the clincher though: but have we considered other FAA types, Sea Venom, Sea Fury, Sea Balliol,etc., all somewhat
lighter than the Gannets or Skyraiders. Must be an artificer out there who remembers a large metal box in the Pusser stores chock full of the things! I’ll follow this with interest . Brian S.