Cheers guys, I was being tongue-in-cheek of course. I love Mustangs.
Thanks Mark for the explanation of what they’re actually doing, it’s great to know warbirds like the P-51D, Spirtfires and P-40’s are so well supported to keep more and more flying around the world.
Jeepman, I’ve read a lot of those nit-picker arguments. I’m not so picky myself but I have to say it always astounds me how the model companies don’t actually listen to the “expert” modellers as they always seem to get something wrong on the millions of Fw190 and Mustang releases that come onto the market, etc.
Don’t you read your ‘Classic Wings’ Dave? 😉
Flug Werk built 16 kits (including the non-flying prototype and another static for the Luftwaffe museum), of which 3 were D-9 lookylikey airframes to be powered by modified Allisons.
They’ve now finished 190 production, and switched to (presumably more lucrative) P-51 Mustang assemblies.
Ah… hmm… cough… I was only asking on behalf of all those who don’t read Classic Wings.
Actually I didn’t see that.
Hmm, does the world really need more Mustangs over rarer types that could be produced? Is this company run by Hasegawa? :p
A couple of queries, I looked at the Flug Werk website but it’s all in German which i don’t speak. I wonder, is there a limited number of these aircraft being built or are they planning to make them for as long as anyone wants to buy them?
Also, was that two-seater that James”s photos show built in the factory in that condition or was the extra seat added in the field? It’s not pretty, but indeed a rarity (one off now I guess). Is that the one now in Hendon?
One advantage that our local (NZ) auction site TradeMe.co.nz has is when you ask the seller a question it appears on the listing page. That way you can warn the unsuspecting buyer of dodgy goods or misquoted history, etc.
eBay should adopt that practice.
Just spotted on Kenneth William’s website, he states:
What a bleedin’ shame – As expected, no luck with “Hoppies” Stork Hotel leave pass, must have been someone else perhaps, don’t you think?
Mr Williams, with all due respect I feel you have not taken much time to look.
Real genuine research is something that takes much time and patience. There have been less than two days since I made the suggestion of a leave pass to the forum – one I thought – as a seasoned researcher – to be sensible and valid and in no way derogatory to either side of this ongoing argument that I’m trying to stay clear of.
Out of interest, may I ask where so far, in less than two days, you’ve actually looked for the leave pass of Colin Hopkinson?
Was your research only done via the internet? I’m sure his records would probably be held in the UK. If leave passes are not kept in personal records perhaps they’re recorded in the unit’s records that a person was attached to. After all the unit had to note where an airman was going to on leave.
May I suggest you be patient and try again, maybe you’ll be luckier on the second attempt if you are more thorough. Good luck.
I’ve followed this thread since it began, because I found Mark12’s document interesting. Sadly few replies have bothered to be connected to it however. It’s a shame because it’s a very rare and interesting piece of history, which I’m sure will be of interest to a number of researchers.
Ashley can I appeal to you to please to consider supporting Moggy’s suggestion of keeping the actual topic alive as a thread, after weeding out the Kenneth Williams nonsense that has overtaken the thread?
It would be a great shame if the thread was locked or disappeaered, with its original topic suffering for the sake of a cuckoo topic that’s taken over.
As for the mass-debate going on here, please someone go and pull Hodgkinson’s personal records from the files and check if it contains dates and details of his leave passes. It may well prove Ian’s theory as a leave pass has the destination of where you’d spend leave written on it, like say a hotel name and address. Sadly I fear they won’t be in the files nowadays but I thought it more worthwhile suggesting something practical rather than join in on the inane puns and attempts at humour.
Thanks very much Will. I am looking forward to seeing photos of the finished scheme.
Great photo by the way!
But she is currently being repainted in a pseudo New Zealand Air Force Transport scheme.
Have you got any photos of the Rapide in its new RNZAF scheme please? Is there any particular reason that scheme has been chosen, or just because it looks nice? Will it be the white/grey/blue VIP scheme as worn by ZK-AKU here in NZ? Or wartime camouflage?
I wonder why they have not made this multi region zoned, like the Canadian version. R2 limits its sales a little (unless like many DVD’s claiming to be of one region they’re secretly multi-zoned?)
I have the Canadian DVD version and love it. It’s a superb series, with great acting as well as characterisations. I think Uncle is one of the supreme characters, and Skull is also wonderful.
I’d be interested to hear from anyone who has got or has seen both UK and Canadian DVD versions – is this British one actually better quality than the Canadian release? As far as clarity, sound etc?
Simply superb, well done Jim. Great photos, great compilation. It’s very emotive.
I have a wartime article about the poem if anyone’s interested. This comes from Contact: The Official Magazine of the Royal New Zealand Air Force, April-May 1942. I suspect the original source was a US-based report. I’ll not bother quoting the poem itself.
The beautiful sonnet quoted below was written by a young pilot in the R.A.F. shortly before he was killed on active service. In its lines he has epitomized the spirit of true adventure.
Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee Jnr., an American citizen born of missionary parents in Shanghai and educated at Britain’s famed Rugby school, was killed on active service in Britain last December. He was 19 years old and had the cause of freedom in his heart.
Pilot Officer Magee had poetry in his heart too, and, in the form of a sonnet, he left a message to youth which his parents consider may be a greater thing than anything he had done in the way of fighting.
Pilot Officer Magee sent the sonnet, scribbled on the back of a letter to his parents, Reverend and Mrs. John G. Magee, who now live in Washington. Mr Magee is assistant Minister at St. John’s Church, Lafayette Square. The Library of Congress, learning of the poem, has requested the original manuscript for inclusion in a collection called “Poems For Faith and Freedom,” which includes works of Burns, Clough, Longfellow, Walt Whiman and Shelley.
The poem was composed last September as the exultant freedom of soaring 30,000 feet the earth amde a word-pattern in his mind. These words were scribbled on the back of a letter after he had returned to earth:-
[POEM INSERTED HERE]
After learning of his son’s death, Mr magee wrote to the RCAF: “When my wife and I saw how deeply he felt about the situation in September 1940, we gave our consent and blessing to him, as he left us to enter the RCAF. We were proud of his determination and spirit. We knew that such news as did come might come. When his sonnet reached us we felt then that it had a message for American youth, but did not know how to get it before them. Now his death has emblazened it across the whole country. We are thinking that this may have been a greater contribution than anything he may have done in the way of fighting, for surely our American youth must enter this conflict in the high spirit of idealism and faith… May we thank the RCAF for all the training and help you have given to our boy.
“We saw a tremendous change in him when he returned to us from his training, a change that was all for the good. We do not regret that we gave our consent to his going and will be forever proud of him.”
Pilot Officer Magee lived in Shanghai for nine years and then was sent to England for his education. After Rugby he came to the United States for the first time in the summer of 1939 and there won a scholarship which would send him to Yale. He was entered at Yale in September 1940, when, having attained his eightennth birthday, he felt he must fight.
He enlisted in Montreal early in october and, on completion of his training at a Flying Training School near Ottawa, he was commissioned from the ranks in June 1941, and proceeded overseas shortly afterwards.
Crap!! A hugely important piece of NZ’s aviation history, that Fox moth, is going overseas. I hope its sale is stopped like the DH89 earlier in the year, as I’m sure it would fall into the same category if not higher of nationl treasures. It was one of our first ever airliners in the 1930’s. Damn!!!
It’s good to see Pioneer has found a good home for its P-40N that they;ve had for sale for some time. But I note they state it served with the RNZAF. Wrong, there never was a 78 Sqn RNZAF. This is an RAAF machine through and through.
The latest issue of Classic Wings announced this news last week, stating that the Fw190 A-9/N will be taken to Duxford for flight testing by the US owner who has just purchased it.
We’ve got solid references to Allied created sources from Don and Oliver. The chances of them post-dating a Japanese version is highly unlikely.
I never saw any mention of Corsairs in either post you mention. There was a mention in Malcolm’s post though, except he quoted the often heard nickname wrongly.
The claim that the Japanese called it the “Whispering Death” means that someone,somewhere had to interogate some japanese soldier and to be told that the japanese forces called it so, doesnt it ?
Or perhaps another scenario is the Allies got hold of a Japanese publication – a magazine or newspaper – where their own press had coined the phrase for propaganda reasons.
I’ve heard they also called the Corsairs ‘Whistling Death’, but who knows – same old situation of finding the true source.